The Football.....

[Vapin' Joe]

Bronze reminds me of John Terry, similar facial features and the same never-say-die attitude.

Top sportspeople often carry on with injuries that would have the rest of us phoning in sick, Tyler Hamilton won a stage of the Tour de France with a broken collarbone.

 

[Mike_P]

I've read Lucy Bronze played the entire Euro tournament with a fractured tibia, presumably a stress fracture. Based on Wiegman's comment the management team were aware of the situation. Bronze is being described as an "absolute legend" and "she is proper England."

I would say far from proper England that she's a proper idiot. As for the management team they should face serious questions from the FA for allowing her to play. The height of irresponsibility.

This women will be held up as an icon, a role model and a clear indication it's OK to play on through potential serious injury. She should not be seen as a role model.

Presumably the medical team said it was okay for her to play. How does it rank compared to G cycling TdF with (IIRC) a broken pelvis?

 

[PaulSB]

Presumably the medical team said it was okay for her to play. How does it rank compared to G cycling TdF with (IIRC) a broken pelvis?

Probably more dangerous as her whole body is constantly twisting and turning, perhaps unpredictabley. G at least was on a bike and holding a, largely, stable position.

 

[Pblakeney]

Probably more dangerous as her whole body is constantly twisting and turning, perhaps unpredictable. G at least was on a bike and holding a, largely, stable position.

We are talking about G staying upright on a bike? 😉

 

[Mike_P]

How did Bronze play Euro 2025 with fractured tibia?https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4g0q0jw9v6o

 

[Alex321]

How did Bronze play Euro 2025 with fractured tibia?https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4g0q0jw9v6o

You realise the previous 5-6 posts had all been discussing this very thing?

 

[gbb]

Bronze reminds me of John Terry, similar facial features and the same never-say-die

As an aside from the fracture story, I think the 'never say die' attitude is what won them the game. Their shoulders never dropped, they never looked beaten, they never acted beaten. Even Spain began to look flustered late in the game, not England.

 

[Mike_P]

You realise the previous 5-6 posts had all been discussing this very thing?

Thats why I linked the BBC article

 

[No Ta Doctor]

Bronze reminds me of John Terry, similar facial features and the same never-say-die attitude.

With less racism, thankfully.

 

[Kevberlin]

I’m not a watcher of women’s football, but I did see Sunday’s game.
What a pleasant surprise………..no diving, no feigning injury, and notably giving assistance to opposing players when fouled.
Sadly, I don’t expect the impending Premier League season will see the so called stars replicating these behaviours. Shame. Cheating is ruining the game.

 

[No Ta Doctor]

I’m not a watcher of women’s football, but I did see Sunday’s game.
What a pleasant surprise………..no diving, no feigning injury, and notably giving assistance to opposing players when fouled.
Sadly, I don’t expect the impending Premier League season will see the so called stars replicating these behaviours. Shame. Cheating is ruining the game.

Probably a good thing you didn't watch the England v Italy semi-final I think

 

[AndyRM]

Probably a good thing you didn't watch the England v Italy semi-final I think

And somehow missed a fair few examples of "The Dark Arts" in the final.

 

[No Ta Doctor]

TBH I think there are some really interesting cultural differences when it comes to "cheating".

In the UK there's this tendency to think of cheating as diving, feigning injury, handballing a goal over Shilton's head even though you're practically a midget and that sort of thing.

Elsewhere, playing the ref is sometimes seen as a vital and skilled part of the game - you get away with what you can.

Meanwhile, back in the UK again, there was always a fairly solid tradition of kicking lumps out of players to intimidate them (e.g. the "early doors reducer"), which is no leas cheating but also dangerous and violent. As an Arsenal fan I lived through a period where the national narrative was "they don't like it up 'em those fancy continental players", while I saw three of our players snapped in half by opposition tackles (all of them obv by "not that sort of player" players, even the one who'd already broken some other kid's leg)

And while we go on about diving, the numerous trips, kicks, shirt tugs, pushes etc. that defenders are allowed to get away with is always going to get attackers wanting to draw the attention of the ref.

 

[matticus]

Cheating common in other sports: England have now won all 5 tosses in the series against India.

 

[AndyRM]

TBH I think there are some really interesting cultural differences when it comes to "cheating".

In the UK there's this tendency to think of cheating as diving, feigning injury, handballing a goal over Shilton's head even though you're practically a midget and that sort of thing.

Elsewhere, playing the ref is sometimes seen as a vital and skilled part of the game - you get away with what you can.

Meanwhile, back in the UK again, there was always a fairly solid tradition of kicking lumps out of players to intimidate them (e.g. the "early doors reducer"), which is no leas cheating but also dangerous and violent. As an Arsenal fan I lived through a period where the national narrative was "they don't like it up 'em those fancy continental players", while I saw three of our players snapped in half by opposition tackles (all of them obv by "not that sort of player" players, even the one who'd already broken some other kid's leg)

And while we go on about diving, the numerous trips, kicks, shirt tugs, pushes etc. that defenders are allowed to get away with is always going to get attackers wanting to draw the attention of the ref.

Agreed.

Although I'd say that Arsenal's back four of Dixon, Winterburn, Adams and Bould never shied away from a tackle...

I reckon the early 2000s was one of the most interesting in "modern" English football, when you had the proper throwback/old school players mixed in with the fancy international types far more than they are today.