The Football.....

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Apart from Oxford beating West Brom, after Rovers defeat I got the results I would have asked for!!

Now we move on to a six-pointer next Saturday. Rovers v Portsmouth on 38 and 39 points respectively. West Brom, Leicester and Oxford all have tricky away games. Rovers cannot afford to lose on Saturday. I'll take a draw but a win would make life a lot more comfortable.

After our usual one good and one bad half in the last two games I haven't a clue what will happen. ☹️

Similar situation different league.
Even though Liverpool deserved their win yesterday i thought the scoreline was a bit flattering.Bad marking at set pieces and two bad deflections led to the liverpool goals.Beside the two goals we scored we had other chances but we wasn't good enough to put them away.
i'm coming around now to the probabilty of West Ham being relegated.Games are running out and we are just hoping that other teams can get results against Forest and Tottenham.

 

[Vapin' Joe]

Similar situation different league.
Even though Liverpool deserved their win yesterday i thought the scoreline was a bit flattering.Bad marking at set pieces and two bad deflections led to the liverpool goals.Beside the two goals we scored we had other chances but we wasn't good enough to put them away.
i'm coming around now to the probabilty of West Ham being relegated.Games are running out and we are just hoping that other teams can get results against Forest and Tottenham.

Man City and Arsenal the two big teams among the remaining fixtures, but London derby's can throw up surprising results. All the other games are winnable - but also losable so it's down to the team holding itself together.

 

[Dorset Boy]

Right footie fans, since when have defenders at corners been allowed to hug the attackers to prevent them jumping?
Arsenal are doing it all the time against Chelsea, and I can't undersand why it isn't a penalty every time

 

[No Ta Doctor]

Right footie fans, since when have defenders at corners been allowed to hug the attackers to prevent them jumping?
Arsenal are doing it all the time against Chelsea, and I can't undersand why it isn't a penalty every time

I'm not sure. We started doing it after someone had their arms round Aaron Ramsdale a few seasons back and all the pundits just said "he needs to be stronger there". Pretty much everyone is doing it though, including Chelsea. Feels like it's been going on quite a while - I went back and looked for some random games from around 10 years ago and it definitely wasn't happening then

Personally I think it's the refs abrogating responsibility - when it became clear attackers were pulling a defenders arm into them to claim they were pulled down they just gave up trying to make a decision on "who started it"

 

[Dorset Boy]

I'm not sure. We started doing it after someone had their arms round Aaron Ramsdale a few seasons back and all the pundits just said "he needs to be stronger there". Pretty much everyone is doing it though, including Chelsea. Feels like it's been going on quite a while - I went back and looked for some random games from around 10 years ago and it definitely wasn't happening then

Personally I think it's the refs abrogating responsibility - when it became clear attackers were pulling a defenders arm into them to claim they were pulled down they just gave up trying to make a decision on "who started it"

it was so obvious when they failed to give a penalty against rice for both that and the clear deliberate handball, and then at the next corner when Chelsea scored, the No36 was doing the same again. It's an utter joke and was far more obvious by Arsenal than Chelsea, who weren't hugging Arsenal players at corners.

And then the Arsenal second goal came from a clear dive by the Arsenal player winning the free kick than resulted in the corner from which they scored the winner. Does VAR have no input into clear and obvious yellow card offences like that, or is it only red card offences and possible goals?

 

[No Ta Doctor]

it was so obvious when they failed to give a penalty against rice for both that and the clear deliberate handball, and then at the next corner when Chelsea scored, the No36 was doing the same again. It's an utter joke and was far more obvious by Arsenal than Chelsea, who weren't hugging Arsenal players at corners.

And then the Arsenal second goal came from a clear dive by the Arsenal player winning the free kick than resulted in the corner from which they scored the winner. Does VAR have no input into clear and obvious yellow card offences like that, or is it only red card offences and possible goals?

Timber's goal. Saliba getting a cuddle from a Chelsea defender.
Honestly, I'm happy to have a debate about this, but can we please not do the one-eyed stuff?
I don't think it was a "clear dive" either - looked like a clear trip to me - Timber was past his man and running into space, nothing much to gain from a dive there, and everything to gain from continuing his run toward the box.

VAR doesn't look at anything other than potential red cards and goals/penalties - and only if the ref hasn't seen it or has made a clear and obvious error

 

[Dorset Boy]

Timber's goal. Saliba getting a cuddle from a Chelsea defender.
Honestly, I'm happy to have a debate about this, but can we please not do the one-eyed stuff?
I don't think it was a "clear dive" either - looked like a clear trip to me - Timber was past his man and running into space, nothing much to gain from a dive there, and everything to gain from continuing his run toward the box.

VAR doesn't look at anything other than potential red cards and goals/penalties - and only if the ref hasn't seen it or has made a clear and obvious error

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The replay showed it a clear dive. The ref was on the wrong side of it. But diving is endemic in the game and helps ruin it. VAR should be called in clear dives, getting tghe culprit booked and free kicks reversed.
Above is them both having a hug, but look at the Rice incident - that was very, very clear, and the contact one sided, as was the other one I mentioned.
It doesn't matter who does it, it's a clear penalty and the officals are in cloud cuckoo land pretending there was nothing to see - VAR even reviewed the Rice incident and could see him holding or moving his elbow to the ball. It's a farce .

 

[Dorset Boy]

Oh and the Chelsea goalkeeper Sanchez is utter sh!te - no good enough for most non-league teams. He's stealing a wage!

 

[Alex321]

it was so obvious when they failed to give a penalty against rice for both that and the clear deliberate handball, and then at the next corner when Chelsea scored, the No36 was doing the same again. It's an utter joke and was far more obvious by Arsenal than Chelsea, who weren't hugging Arsenal players at corners.

And then the Arsenal second goal came from a clear dive by the Arsenal player winning the free kick than resulted in the corner from which they scored the winner. Does VAR have no input into clear and obvious yellow card offences like that, or is it only red card offences and possible goals?

Only foul play (red card offences) and possible goals.

Next year they will also be allowed to intervene in 2nd yellow situations and corner kicks. Though stupidly (IMV), they will only be able to intervene whena corner is wrongly given, not when a goal kick is wrongly given.

 

[Alex321]

it was so obvious when they failed to give a penalty against rice for both that and the clear deliberate handball, and then at the next corner when Chelsea scored, the No36 was doing the same again. It's an utter joke and was far more obvious by Arsenal than Chelsea, who weren't hugging Arsenal players at corners.

Just watched the highlights, and I would say it was much more obvious from Chelsea than from Arsenal.

Both Arsenal goals, there were Chelsea players with arms wrapped right around an arsenal player "hugging" them tightly.