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No Ta Doctor

Über Member
The other difference, is that in rugby, the onfield ref is fully involved in the VAR process from the start, along with his touch judges.
Football, the VAR team review stuff and eventually call upon the ref to go to a screen to review it - it's daft.

Yes! In football VAR is conceived as a way to reverse decisions when an error has been made, in rugby it's conceived as an aid to the ref, it's a very different implementation
 

No Ta Doctor

Über Member
The one thing that football can take from cricket and rugby is the “umpires call” which gives weight to the refs original on field decision.
Unless the decision is clearly wrong the benefit of the doubt goes to the on pitch referee.
But most of all, everyone needs to stop moaning about the marginal calls. Suck it up and get on with the game.
The problem with football is that there are so few scoring opportunities in any game that a dodgy goal can swing a game. Most other sports have far more opportunities to get back in the game.

Football already has this - VAR is only supposed to intervene in cases wit a clear and obvious error, and even then it just tells the ref to go and check the video. But most of the contentious calls are e.g. force of tackle, position of arm in a handball etc. - these are subjective, so difficult to call an error
 

laurentian

Senior Member
Arsenal fans? Thousands, possibly tens of thousands. The Arsenal Copenhagen Facebook page has 2k members, Arsenal Denmark facebook page 18k. And nobody under 30 even uses Facebook. There were at least 5 dedicated Arsenal pubs for the final game yesterday (arranged with Arsenal Copenhagen), they were all absolutely rammed.

English football has always been huge across Scandinavia. In Denmark they used to show English league games on free to air national channels during their winter break. It continued all the way up until the turn of the millennia. I've met plenty of e.g. 60ish guys who are Leeds fans because they watched them when they were growing up in the 70s. I know Danes and other Scandis who have handed their club allegiance down through generations - in fact I found out my eldest had gone out celebrating with his Arsenal mate and his dad, who turned out to be a guy I used to watch matches with 20 years ago. And now the Premier League is eating all football everywhere it's not got any smaller here in Denmark. But even thirty years ago, all kids interested in football would have an English club (not all would stick with it mind, kids are kids) There are a generation in their late twenties to thirties that grew up with Henry and Bergkamp and Pires and Vieira, but there are also loads that are a lot younger that I'm not sure how they found the club

The reach of the Premier League was made very evident to me when on a cycling tour down the Mekong in Cambodia. The night we arrived in Phnom Penh, the good lady and I were on the rooftop bar of our hotel (this sounds very posh - it really wasn't) - about half a mile away, there was the glow of a football stadium and thousands of people cheering - there was clearly a footy match going on in the (national?) stadium and I thought "we'll have some of that" and wondered if we could get a ticket to go to watch the remainder of whatever game was going on. When I made enquiries, turns out, the stadium was showing Chelsea v Man City on a big screen
 

ianrauk

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The reach of the Premier League was made very evident to me when on a cycling tour down the Mekong in Cambodia. The night we arrived in Phnom Penh, the good lady and I were on the rooftop bar of our hotel (this sounds very posh - it really wasn't) - about half a mile away, there was the glow of a football stadium and thousands of people cheering - there was clearly a footy match going on in the (national?) stadium and I thought "we'll have some of that" and wondered if we could get a ticket to go to watch the remainder of whatever game was going on. When I made enquiries, turns out, the stadium was showing Chelsea v Man City on a big screen

I think where ever you go in the world, if you are from the UK then someone will inevitably ask you which (PL) team do you support.
 

PaulSB

Squire
The reach of the Premier League was made very evident to me when on a cycling tour down the Mekong in Cambodia. The night we arrived in Phnom Penh, the good lady and I were on the rooftop bar of our hotel (this sounds very posh - it really wasn't) - about half a mile away, there was the glow of a football stadium and thousands of people cheering - there was clearly a footy match going on in the (national?) stadium and I thought "we'll have some of that" and wondered if we could get a ticket to go to watch the remainder of whatever game was going on. When I made enquiries, turns out, the stadium was showing Chelsea v Man City on a big screen
Yes, the reach is amazing in many ways. Years ago I was on holiday in Turkey and lost my wallet. I had to report this to the police in case an insurance claim was necessary. I trundled along to the police station which turned out to be a semi-military affair, definitely not routine police.

Language was an issue and eventually a young recruit who spoke English appeared. He had no interest in my problem whatsoever. Then the word "Blackburn" dropped into my chat. He looked at me with a broad smile on his face: "Tugay?" Yes, I said, Tugay. From that point nothing was too much trouble and the report was done in double-quick time.

I always loved Tugay, he was such a kind man, and one of the most gifted footballers I've had the privilege to watch. What a player.
 

laurentian

Senior Member
I think where ever you go in the world, if you are from the UK then someone will inevitably ask you which (PL) team do you support.

. . . yes! the times I have had to open the BBC Sport app league tables and show them exactly where Northampton Town sit in the scheme of things . . .
 

Pblakeney

Über Member
The other difference, is that in rugby, the onfield ref is fully involved in the VAR process from the start, along with his touch judges.
Football, the VAR team review stuff and eventually call upon the ref to go to a screen to review it - it's daft.

Along with the fans seeing, and hearing, everything that the VAR team and referee are discussing.
Knowledgeable fans letting their feelings being known is another buffer. "Knowledgeable" is probably doing the heavy lifting there. 😉
 
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