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Gawd, I spent more than that on popcorn.
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Gawd, I spent more than that on popcorn.
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Andrew_Culture
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[QUOTE 2258527, member: 1314"]Erm. My thoughts. Well, I was obsessed with Tolkien from the age of 9, 10 for a few years. Read all about him, pored over his maps, that fantasy language he was writing, the subject he taught at Uni. I learnt about the history of words, linguistic theories, the relationships between language, culture and character. Of course, I read and re-read and re-re-read all of his fictional works. Even that long poet thing he did. It was a way of escaping from the drab place I grew up in. I found his works enchanting, sad and scary.
I tried to read his works again when I was in my early 20s – I had nothing better to do and picked up a book from the shelf and...the pace for me was pedestrian, the content childish fantasy and its relevance to my life non-existent. I could go into details why I think that was (I’d discovered the urban fantasies of Alasdair Gray as one reason for example) but I won’t as this is not an academic essay.
The LotR trilogy – having lost my enjoyment of Tolkein - I found overlong, overblown and rather silly. I can possibly see how the LofR sort of reflected the world of its time – the sense of war looming for example – but still.
However, as I said, he was useful to me as a kid and was one reason I determined to go to Uni to study English. I won’t go and see The Hobbit though my 12 year old went to see it the other month.
Not meaning to **** on anyones parade – I think I’ve been fair, and it’s just my subjective opinion.[/quote]
Fair enough! I feel the same way about The Stone Roses
I tried to read his works again when I was in my early 20s – I had nothing better to do and picked up a book from the shelf and...the pace for me was pedestrian, the content childish fantasy and its relevance to my life non-existent. I could go into details why I think that was (I’d discovered the urban fantasies of Alasdair Gray as one reason for example) but I won’t as this is not an academic essay.
The LotR trilogy – having lost my enjoyment of Tolkein - I found overlong, overblown and rather silly. I can possibly see how the LofR sort of reflected the world of its time – the sense of war looming for example – but still.
However, as I said, he was useful to me as a kid and was one reason I determined to go to Uni to study English. I won’t go and see The Hobbit though my 12 year old went to see it the other month.
Not meaning to **** on anyones parade – I think I’ve been fair, and it’s just my subjective opinion.[/quote]
Fair enough! I feel the same way about The Stone Roses
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[QUOTE 2258568, member: 1314"]Not dissing him - just my opinion. Just felt I had to say something as I was really into him! And I remember the Junior school teacher reading The Hobbit to us on Friday afternoons and finding it enthralling, in a grown way.[/quote]
Oh I know the feeling entirely. The Stone Roses were the reason I started playing in bands, I had a total teenage obsession with them. But now they mean nothing to me, I don't even listen to their old records, there's just no connection any more. It's sad in a way, but I guess as we grow up our interests diversify in a positive way.
Oh I know the feeling entirely. The Stone Roses were the reason I started playing in bands, I had a total teenage obsession with them. But now they mean nothing to me, I don't even listen to their old records, there's just no connection any more. It's sad in a way, but I guess as we grow up our interests diversify in a positive way.
What I mean is that it appears to be set up with the sole purpose of allowing copyright theft. If you don't have a problem with that, maybe you should have.
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Went to see it last night - it was also the first 3D film I'd seen.
Some of the scenes (fight in the goblin cave, for example) reminded me of an Indiana Jones movie - milking the CGI possibilities far too much.
Thought I recognised the voice of Thorin, but couldn't place it until the credits - I'm afraid to say that adding a dwarf-style beard to Richard Armitage removes almost all of his drool-worthiness!
Some of the scenes (fight in the goblin cave, for example) reminded me of an Indiana Jones movie - milking the CGI possibilities far too much.
Thought I recognised the voice of Thorin, but couldn't place it until the credits - I'm afraid to say that adding a dwarf-style beard to Richard Armitage removes almost all of his drool-worthiness!
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Guy of Gisbon! The penny has dropped!
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Also John Thornton in North and South - that's the tasty role (not for you maybe, you're the wrong kind of person to appreciate....
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What is it with Jackson and long films?
King Kong was on the tele the other night and I got around 20 minutes into it when I decided there was no way I could put up with it for it's 3 hour plus running length.
Like others, I can't help but feel as though the Hobbit is "milking it" at 3 films of 3 hours. You might also say it's knowing where you bread's buttered. The NZ Government are probably keen for 'The Hobbit Returns 3'....
I also read 'The Hobbit' and LOTR when I was 12 or 13. They are kids books imho, Hobbit particularly.(Not a criticism btw). The Sulmarrilian is indulgent, something for those bordering on obsessional, geeks if you will.
But, I have to confess, it's all my fault*. Jackson had no real interest in Tolkein when he was young. He was into film animation, special effects, gore even - not fantasy as such. He loved the films of Ray Harryhausen (Sinbad etc), films like King Kong, Mighty Joe Young... that was his sort of thing. He liked the James Bond films and was a film buff. I wouldn't have called him literary though - his thing was films not books. I'm certain his introduction to LOTR was via the Ralph Baksi animated film version that we went to see when we were around 15.
* tongue in cheek brag/claim-to-fame. I was at college with Jackson and we made super 8 films.
King Kong was on the tele the other night and I got around 20 minutes into it when I decided there was no way I could put up with it for it's 3 hour plus running length.
Like others, I can't help but feel as though the Hobbit is "milking it" at 3 films of 3 hours. You might also say it's knowing where you bread's buttered. The NZ Government are probably keen for 'The Hobbit Returns 3'....
I also read 'The Hobbit' and LOTR when I was 12 or 13. They are kids books imho, Hobbit particularly.(Not a criticism btw). The Sulmarrilian is indulgent, something for those bordering on obsessional, geeks if you will.
But, I have to confess, it's all my fault*. Jackson had no real interest in Tolkein when he was young. He was into film animation, special effects, gore even - not fantasy as such. He loved the films of Ray Harryhausen (Sinbad etc), films like King Kong, Mighty Joe Young... that was his sort of thing. He liked the James Bond films and was a film buff. I wouldn't have called him literary though - his thing was films not books. I'm certain his introduction to LOTR was via the Ralph Baksi animated film version that we went to see when we were around 15.
* tongue in cheek brag/claim-to-fame. I was at college with Jackson and we made super 8 films.
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[QUOTE 2258568, member: 1314"]Not dissing him - just my opinion. Just felt I had to say something as I was really into him! And I remember the Junior school teacher reading The Hobbit to us on Friday afternoons and finding it enthralling, in a grown way.[/quote]
Mr (Geoff) Brooks read it to us when i was in 2nd yr juniors (year 4 to you yunguns) . I loved it
Mr (Geoff) Brooks read it to us when i was in 2nd yr juniors (year 4 to you yunguns) . I loved it
I've got too much time on my hands, and reminiscing got the better of me (I must be approaching my death) - a bit of googling produced this....
Peter Jackon is 3rd row (from the front) 3rd from right. I'm 2nd row 2nd from left. Even spookier, my older brother's ex-wife is there too! We're all around 13. Jackson had a terrible stutter in those days. Only grew out of it after leaving college.
Peter Jackon is 3rd row (from the front) 3rd from right. I'm 2nd row 2nd from left. Even spookier, my older brother's ex-wife is there too! We're all around 13. Jackson had a terrible stutter in those days. Only grew out of it after leaving college.
Arjimlad
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Well, I and my boys really enjoyed the film, thought it was not too long, it really brought out a lot of detail and I wouldn't have wanted them to cut a single minute of what we saw.
I was bursting for a pee by the end though, having foolishly drunk a bottle of pop in the cinema !
I was bursting for a pee by the end though, having foolishly drunk a bottle of pop in the cinema !
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It looks like Jackson has just padded out the story, which would have made for a nice single film, with lots of extraneous backstory, fighting and CGI. Two films would have been bearable, three is just ridiculous.
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Maybe there's still time to edit the last 2 into 1 film and make it easier on us.
Nice photo btw yello.
Nice photo btw yello.
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