The Mandela affect.

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MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
My friend Rosie is always telling people about the time i dragged up for a party and wore a little sparkly dress... it wasn't sparkly, but try telling her that.
My mate Steve, regarding the very same party thinks i wore a full length prairie dress... but no... Sally was wearing the prairie dress, but try telling him that.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Didn't we have this discussion before?

I read that the effect is caused by the brain substituting what it thinks are correct details drawn from memories of similar events.

For example, my wife and I did a road tour of the USA which unsurprisingly necessitated long hours for me at the wheel as my wife doesn't drive. One of my strongest memories is driving south through the cotton fields of Georgia under impossibly blue skies singing "500 miles" by the Proclaimers together whilst we held hands with my wife to my left. Which is impossible as it was a left hand drive car but in my mind's eye I can see my wife sitting in the left hand seat as clear as day - the seat she sits in every other time we travel by car and have done so for the last 25 years. You can see why the brain thinks the more common memory is the correct one.
If you were holding hands, whose hands were on the steering wheel?
 
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Dave7

Dave7

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Location
Cheshire
It is a standing joke in my wife's family, she is often accused of this even remembering her brother who is 2 years older than her being born.
How weird.....you have just made me realise I have gone through life with my own Mandela affect.
I have clear recollection of my grandad pushing me in a pushchair aged 3-4ish. After reading this I checked back to realise I was 14 months old when he died.
 

Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
But is wasn't until they were released into the wild in Scotland with no natural predator that they thrived, they are only allowed to be shot for 3 months of the year to keep the numbers down.

The Scots or the Haggis?
 

Pale Rider

Legendary Member
Bogart's line in Casablanca to the pianist is often mis-quoted as "Play it again, Sam".

Bogart didn't say that, he just said "...play it".

I think the full line is something like "Sam, if you can play it for me, you can play it for her, so play it".

Might be some confusion there with a later Woody Allen musical which was called "Play it again, Sam".
 

glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
Location
Scotland
Tartan was a Victorian invention. Bagpipes and haggis came from Europe

Tartan existed long before then (wearing it was outlawed by the English in the mid-18th century) but was boosted in popularity during Victoria's reign. It was during that period that the practice of associating particular tartans with family names (clans) came about, yet people think tartans were always family name associated or other nonsense like you can't wear a tartan that isn't of your surname.
 

glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
Location
Scotland
I was installing a headset and was utterly convinced that I dropped a part. I can even describe it, it was a flanged o-ring type seal that sat under the bearing cover. I can see it in my mimd's eye and can see myself dropping it. I searched all over the shed, moved everything out of the way, checked all my spares boxes. I even emailed the manufacturer asking them to send a new o-ring out. They sent one, but it was different to the one I needed so I asked them to send the other type. They asked me for a photo of the headset so they could identify the part. I sent them a photo and they duly replied...

The part does not exist. That headset does not have that type of seal, I must have imagined the entire thing. It's really weird because even though the manufacturer has told me this, there is still part of my brain that wont accept it, and remains convinced that I dropped it on my shed floor or put it in a box, and one day it will turn up.


You should read the book: The Invisible Gorilla. Aside from the infamous observation test, it deals with memories, how they are formed and why they are so often wrong. Read it and you'll never trust your, or anyone else's, memory ever again.

Here's an overview of it http://www.theinvisiblegorilla.com/overview.html
 

winjim

Straddle the line, discord and rhyme
You should read the book: The Invisible Gorilla. Aside from the infamous observation test, it deals with memories, how they are formed and why they are so often wrong. Read it and you'll never trust your, or anyone else's, memory ever again.

Here's an overview of it http://www.theinvisiblegorilla.com/overview.html
Yes, it is one of those books I must get round to. I rarely confirm or deny things, rather I tell people that I do / do not have a memory of doing something. I think it's an important distinction but others tend to disagree, especially if I'm telling them I have no memory of them telling me something which they have a memory of, if you get my drift...
 
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