The (Pro) Retirement thread

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There's an argument for people climbing off as soon as they announce their 'future retirement'; their commitment and motivation has to be questioned.

Look at G's results during his retirement year: completely phoned it in. Pinot had a couple of decent digs but Bardet even joined Picnic in his quest to wind down his career.
 

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There's an argument for people climbing off as soon as they announce their 'future retirement'; their commitment and motivation has to be questioned.

Look at G's results during his retirement year: completely phoned it in. Pinot had a couple of decent digs but Bardet even joined Picnic in his quest to wind down his career.
But conversely, Anna van der Breggen announced retirement, then won two more Giros, two national championships, a European, two worlds and an Olympic bronze, amongst others.

Then un retired after a few years.
 
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There's an argument for people climbing off as soon as they announce their 'future retirement'; their commitment and motivation has to be questioned.

Look at G's results during his retirement year: completely phoned it in. Pinot had a couple of decent digs but Bardet even joined Picnic in his quest to wind down his career.

You say that, but he won a Tour de France stage i 2024 with DSM firmenich PostNL pre-Picnic sponsor change.

That was their fourth from last WT win....

(Bittner a stage in the Vuelta '24, Van Uden a stage in the Giro '25 and Onley a stage in Suisse '25, since you ask)
 
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wakemalcolm

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You say that, but he won a Tour de France stage i 2024 with DSM firmenich PostNL pre-Picnic sponsor change.

That was their fourth from last WT win....

(Bittner a stage in the Vuelta '24, Van Uden a stage in the Giro '25 and Onley a stage in Suisse '25, since you ask)

You say 'win', I say 'was gifted', which is a shame because Van den Broek looked like a real prospect back then with years of similar opportunities ahead of him.
 

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You say 'win', I say 'was gifted', which is a shame because Van den Broek looked like a real prospect back then with years of similar opportunities ahead of him.

It's not gifting if it's between teammates though, especially if it's team hierarchy. (Pog can gift stages to Del Toro, Del Toro can't gift stages to Pog, its just doing his job)

Luckily for Van den Broek he only has a contract until the end of this year, so he's free to look for a less cursed team
 
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It's not gifting if it's between teammates though, especially if it's team hierarchy. (Pog can gift stages to Del Toro, Del Toro can't gift stages to Pog, its just doing his job)

Luckily for Van den Broek he only has a contract until the end of this year, so he's free to look for a less cursed team

Head to head, square go, no team orders, straight race at the end of that stage.
Who's winning? Van den Broek.
Who was told to let Bardet win? Van den Broek?
Ipse facto: gifted (your opinion may differ)
 
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