The Prosecution of Dewani in South Africa

[glasgowcyclist]

My understanding is he's been found 'Not Guilty'....thats not the same as 'innocent'.

That's fine as long as you apply a similar distinction when referring to 'guilty'.

GC

 

[Leodis]

Innocent people don't run to Max clifford. Everything about this case is dodgy, look at the payments made on video, the odd meal miles out of the way through a ghetto, the sexuality and secret lifes, oh and the 4 year breakdown to avoid extradition.

Guess after the latest high profile case SA justice is one of money against incompetence.

 

[mcshroom]

Ah, a 'no smoke without fire' argument

The case was so weak that the judge directed the court to aquit him and direct he be found not guilty. To quote the old 'Cops' TV show opening credits, 'all suspects are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law'. He has not been.

 

[Over The Hill]

I thought it was said she was shot as part of a kidnapping or murder plot.

I have never heard of anyone shot as part of a plea bargain. I wonder what would have happened to her if there was not a plea bargain?

They got a reduced sentence for being paid assassins rather than armed robbers. Their sentence was reduced by bringing the husband into the frame as the one setting up the thing. Is that reliable? I think not. They were basically told that if they incriminated him they would get quite a few years less on their sentence.

There is basically nothing to incriminate the husband apart from the statements brought about by this bargaining.

 

[Over The Hill]

Innocent people don't run to Max clifford. Everything about this case is dodgy, look at the payments made on video, the odd meal miles out of the way through a ghetto, the sexuality and secret lifes, oh and the 4 year breakdown to avoid extradition.

Guess after the latest high profile case SA justice is one of money against incompetence.

So he tried to not be taken back to SA after the SA police set him up. Must be guilty then!!

 

[Tin Pot]

He did not commit this crime.

He was innocent.

This is a good thing.

Cheer up!

 

[Leodis]

So he tried to not be taken back to SA after the SA police set him up. Must be guilty then!!

The guy is dodgy as hell.

 

[Crackle]

Quite a good summary here

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/08/shrien-dewani-trial-what-went-wrong

 

[Accy cyclist]

Has the mental illness gone now that he's been freed?

 

[spen666]

They got a reduced sentence for being paid assassins rather than armed robbers. Their sentence was reduced by bringing the husband into the frame as the one setting up the thing. Is that reliable? I think not. They were basically told that if they incriminated him they would get quite a few years less on their sentence.

There is basically nothing to incriminate the husband apart from the statements brought about by this bargaining.

Think you have misread / misunderstood my post.

I was referring to your comment

the people that shot her as part of a plea bargain

 

[Vapin' Joe]

Innocent people don't run to Max clifford.

You're right there.

Only the guilty can run to Max Clifford. They don't allow innocent people into his cell.

 

[Over The Hill]

The guy is dodgy as hell.

So are lots of people. But that does not make them murderers.

Shall we just round up anyone with a few skeletons in their closet and get them framed for murder in SA?

 

[Pale Rider]

Has the mental illness gone now that he's been freed?

Seemed to me he played the mad card in a bid to avoid extradition.

Once that failed - and there was a possible inkling the South African prosecutors would drop it - his mental health improved.

Shades of that dreadful Guinness creature who played the system in a similar way.

 

[gbb]

Its worth remembering...those that think he's involved,, do so based on nothing more than gut instinct, a perfectly natural human instinct.
Those that think he's innocent do so based....on exactly the same .

No-one knows except perhaps Dewani and the killers. ANYTHING we think is purely guesswork

 

[Tin Pot]

Its worth remembering...those that think he's involved,, do so based on nothing more than gut instinct, a perfectly natural human instinct.
Those that think he's innocent do so based....on exactly the same .

No-one knows except perhaps Dewani and the killers. ANYTHING we think is purely guesswork

You are wrong. (My fave forum opening sentence)

But in this case you really are: I think he's innocent because the Law does.

What a happy world I live in.