The Rozzers

Discussion in 'Advocacy and Cycling Safety' started by Slow But Determined, 28 Jan 2019.

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  1. mjr

    mjr Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next

    I'm not so sure. Police call out data is public and Norfolk now gets about a dash or bike camera report a day, most of those are road traffic offences and I suspect quite good evidence because people tend not to bother filling out all the forms for borderline stuff. So there's probably a surge in traffic work too and very little money to fund it.
     
  2. Milkfloat

    Milkfloat Veteran

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    @Drago has already covered what you wrote about the police, so I will cover the veiled racism and sexism. You do realize that a black man is 3.5 times more likely to be arrested compared to a white man, plus a black woman is twice as likely to be arrested compared to a white woman. https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures...and-the-law/policing/number-of-arrests/latest In addition a woman is twice as likely to suffer stalking and abuse compared to a man. I don't think you can complain that the Police are looking into Facebook crime unnecessarily.
     
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  3. Cycleops

    Cycleops Guru

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    Obviously I was being tongue in cheek but I do wonder what effect investigating these crimes has on an already stretched and underfunded force.
     
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  4. mjr

    mjr Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next

    It won't be the roads policing units investigating online abuse, so not much in the short term.

    Also, if they deal with the worst abuse today, it's probably fewer offences against the person to deal with later.

    And it wasn't obviously tongue in cheek. More work needed on the emoticons. But even in jest, it's a pretty poisonous thing to write IMO. Far too many Mail readers posting similar shoot already.
     
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  5. Do you really think that police officers on the street decide when police stations open and close? Or do you just want to use every stick you can pick up.

    Maybe the evidence was not strong enough to secure a conviction in their view. Your opinion in that regard, carries no weight.

    You reported it. They decided no action and you are annoyed.

    Its a bit sour grapes.
     
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  6. Jody

    Jody Platinum member

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  7. Bazzer

    Bazzer Setting the controls for the heart of the sun.

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  8. vickster

    vickster Legendary Member

    Engage a cycling specialist solicitor (easier if a member of British Cycling, Cycling U.K. Or similar) and pursue the driver that way through their insurance.
    Keep evidence of your injuries, losses, receipts etc.
    There's a good accident advice sticky in general cycling/commuting
    It'll hit the driver more financially via increased premiums for the next 3-5 years, more so that the cost of a driver awareness course would
     
  9. lane

    lane Über Member

    Not relevant to the question of if the police take traffic crime seriously enough or not, but this link to the week in the life of a murder detective in London would at least suggest that some police work incredibly hard, get no time off, and deserve a pension and retirement when they get there.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46838618
     
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  10. dutchguylivingintheuk

    dutchguylivingintheuk Well-Known Member

    Those figures say nothing if you can't compare it against the crimes committed by white people and black people and so on. Do you have these numbers? Or do we call that ''white privileged racist and so on?
    Why can't he complain about Policie looking to much into Facebook of social media? it are two different things, so whats the link?
     
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  11. recumbentpanda

    recumbentpanda Über Member

    In a spirit of respectful debate, if dutchguy wishes to know why his question about numbers is problematic, I would recommend to him the very interesting book by Reni Eddo-Lodge entitled ‘Why I am no Longer Talking to White People About Race’. (The title is, of course, ‘tongue in cheek’). The OP might find it enlightening also.
     
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  12. dutchguylivingintheuk

    dutchguylivingintheuk Well-Known Member

    Not at all not that you read it, not that i'm bothered. But just the get thing straith, i'm not a racist but i'm not buying BS either, not if you paint a image of people of any color being saints or just publish statistics that say absolutely nothing, like above did.
    You don't know my race, and it is BS because race and criminality rates are two different things. However if you start posting stats about BLACK and WHITE people you better be very clear about them, i just pointed out it was'nt because there where important things missing. I know BLACK is an TRIGGER word i can post a thousand articles with out any offense being taken, do ctrl+F replace white with black and all hell breaks loose. I'm not saying there is no Racism in the world i'm just saying racism is'nt race-specific. In terms of a black person can be just a racist as a white person.(or any other mix of color/gender and so on) I should'nt even needing to explaining this but the sad reality is in 2019 apparently i have too, with some people crying in there ''safe-spaces'' good luck in there @FishFright
     
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  13. theclaud

    theclaud It's teeceegawnmaaaad

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    Well that's that cleared up.
     
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  14. dutchguylivingintheuk

    dutchguylivingintheuk Well-Known Member

    lol, yeah should have read that back edited now to make it more clear.
     
  15. Moderators

    Moderators Guru Moderator

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    Mod Note
    The thread has run its course, is going off topic and is descending into personal arguments.
     
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