There are no safe levels of Alcohol consumption ....

[MarkF]

The income from alcohol duty is around £14 billion p.a. The costs to the economy (and this is a conservative estimate) is £21 billion p.a. Those are UK wide figures.

The first figure I'll accept, the latter would need firming up for me.

Burt what do fatso's cost the economy? We already know they cost the NHS far more than boozers. Long term hospital beds, lossed limbs, carers, leased fatso beds, leased fatso chairs, people to ferry them around etc etc.

I am not disputing boozers cost the NHS and society money, but first things first. #barkingupwrongtree.

 

[PK99]

The first figure I'll accept, the latter would need firming up for me.

Burt what do fatso's cost the economy? We already know they cost the NHS far more than boozers. Long term hospital beds, lossed limbs, carers, leased fatso beds, leased fatso chairs, people to ferry them around etc etc.

I am not disputing boozers cost the NHS and society money, but first things first. #barkingupwrongtree.

old folks as well!

the more we drink, the shorter we live, the less we cost!

 

[vernon]

And from today's Daily Telegraph

 

[SD1]

So drinking red wine is now bad for you?
My dentist said drinking 2 pints a week will give me mouth cancer.
I told her I will give up Listerine.
Either way I don't give a shite what prohibitionist want.
Where is that bottle of Aspall Imperial Vintage 285 Suffolk Cyder 500ml, I am a touch thirsty.
Edit meant two pints a day!

 

[SD1]

Obviously not every shift is like that, but it rarely dips below 85% of calls for any given night shift year round.

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I don't believe that.

 

[Fab Foodie]

This cartoon was in a supplement with today's BMJ

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Why hadn't I thought of that ....

 

[Wafer]

When I read stuff like http://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/the-chief-medical-officer-is-misleading.html calling out the research that this new guidance is based on being BS and contrary to most other research on alcohol, I find it difficult to work out who to believe....
If that blog article is right though, these new guidelines are actually dangerously false in attempting to promote no drinking at all.

 

[vernon]

When I read stuff like http://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/the-chief-medical-officer-is-misleading.html calling out the research that this new guidance is based on being BS and contrary to most other research on alcohol, I find it difficult to work out who to believe....
If that blog article is right though, these new guidelines are actually dangerously false in attempting to promote no drinking at all.

Start by looking at qualifications of the blogger and any agendas that he is pursuing.

There is no promotion of zero alcohol drinking or even an attempt to promote zero alcohol drinking.

 

[JoshM]

I don't believe that.

I've 6 years of experience of pre hospital care, and hundreds of night shifts worth of experience. You can believe me or not, I won't lose any sleep over it. My figure isn't exact but based on my extensive experience.

To clarify if it helps you, I don't mean to say that 85% of night shift calls are caused by alcohol, but that 85% involve alcohol. I include everything from drunken assaults, people sleeping in the streets, falls where the person who has fallen is intoxicated, panic attacks, overdoses and mental health problems exacerbated by alcohol, to chest pains etc where alcohol has been consumed.

 

[winjim]

Unless you are a woman over 55...

Our chief medical officer being a woman in her 60s...

 

[midlife]

The statistics at the lower end of drinking are likely stochastic, rather like ionising radiation at very low doses.............. there is no safe limit for that either but we all get it from the environment but bet not to add to it if possible for no good reason.

Shaun

 

[Levo-Lon]

Ive not touched a drop since 5,30pm new yrs eve..

i do feel a hell of a lot better..not feeling sluggish and ive lost 4,1/2 pounds this week.
i am on a get fitter kick and eating only 2 meals a day and no snacking..

im as miserable as fook tho

 

[vernon]

After due consideration of the warnings attached to drinking excessive amounts of alcohol, I'm going to revise my colour co-ordinated Woodrup hydration system for future tours.

 

[Flick of the Elbow]

Medical experts, what do they know ? Seriously, they change their mind on so many things and with such regularity that I just ignore them now. 15 units ? I could drink that in one lunchtime.

 

[Wafer]

There is no promotion of zero alcohol drinking or even an attempt to promote zero alcohol drinking.

When they're saying there is no safe amount of alcohol the implication is that you shouldn't drink any.

I'm concerned not only at the agenda of a blogger like that, but also of the people who carried out the study that this new advice is based on. Hence why i said I don't know who to trust. It would hardly be the first example of biased research resulting in bad advice.