This is What You Call "A Hard Stop"

[Vapin' Joe]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCJPN_H9LcQ&feature=youtu.be

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Whereas, if it happened here, & it would never be allowed to, the Officer would have every kind of cr@p falling onto him, from press & senior Officers

I know someone who's husband was a firearms officer, & she lived in dread of the consequences of him having to shoot someone, & how he (& his collegues) would be put through the mill for doing the job they were trained to do

 

[swee'pea99]

Whereas, if it happened here, & it would never be allowed to, the Officer would have every kind of cr@p falling onto him, from press & senior Officers

Quite right too. That was a premeditated act that could very easily have caused a death, and more than likely did cause serious injury. Police have no business endangering people's lives, other than in clearly prescribed circumstances - eg, to avoid a serious risk of death to others. That's Judge Dredd territory, and I suspect your firearms officer friend would also have serious reservations about going there.

 

[Vapin' Joe]

Quite right too. That was a premeditated act that could very easily have caused a death, and more than likely did cause serious injury.

The guy was claiming he had a hand grenade, if plod had let him go and he really did have one they'd have been hauled over the coals for that.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

And making that sort of stop is a good idea, in a city centre, when there might be explosives involved?

How about stick a tracker on the bike and pick him up somewhere a little less urban?

And what if he rides three blocks and gets on a bus?

There's no easy answer to this sort of situation but I would want a grenade-holding criminal stopped & apprehended as quickly as possible.

 

[Globalti]

Motorbikes are difficult to stop, especially in an urban environment where they can out manouever a car. Ask the Police involved in the recent Bike Life idiocy in British cities.

 

[Drago]

Has anyone here ever handled a grenade, much less actually thrown a live one?

I have, and it ain't like TV where there's a boom and everyone gets blown over, stands up and brushes themselves off. If someone has such a weapon and they can not be safely contained and isolated, then they need stopping before they can deploy that weapon. The exception would be if they were already amidst a target rich environment, then in that case you have to weigh the risk to the innocents of taking no action against the Tango, against the risk of him letting the cocking handle fly. In that situation there isn't a right answer.

The scenario shown in the video would be unlikely to play out here. However, the guy is on a small, fast, agile vehicle with the ability o go where cars can not, and the officer was able to take decisive action and stop the Tango with no collateral harm. In the tactical sense he was 100% successful.

It's a military level problem, and it's not realistic to always expect a civilian level solution.

 

[biggs682]

Sure as hell worked

 

[Gert Lush]

fark me..

 

[Levo-Lon]

Old clip...i liked it last time, pity about the bike

 

[Roadhump]

Seems quite apposite to this thread - victory for common sense IMHO

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/pc-who-knocked-criminal-scrambler-12121024

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Seems quite apposite to this thread - victory for common sense IMHO

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/pc-who-knocked-criminal-scrambler-12121024

I saw that last night, & was just looking for it

However, my link was pre-verdict, & we got the correct verdict!!

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

https://www.facebook.com/BullshirePolice/videos/vb.474350195937252/1232038396835091/?type=2&theater