tiagra 4700 or 105 5700 vs sram apex

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cyberknight

As long as I breathe, I attack.
I am considering changing the shifters on my boardman from sram apex to 10 speed 4700/ 10 speed 105 as chain reaction have them for 102/105 for the shifters + a rear mech on top , with BC discount on top .

TBH i have never really got on with sram as i find shifting to an easier gear a bit hit and miss , maybe because i ride shimano claris all week on the commuter and im used to them and also i have to wear large size gloves so i guess it means i have large hands so i do find the shimano hood shape gives me a better hand position .

Has anyone any insights into the differences of the two systems ?, or is it a sidegrade not really worth doing ?
 

outlash

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No real difference between Tiagra & 105, they both work perfectly well. Never used Apex so I couldn't compare. TBH, I'm of the opinion with groupsets is that if it works, then there's no real point changing (I'm here all week, don't forget to tip your waitress etc etc).
 

vickster

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105 aesthetically, cables routed like SRAM . Unless the new tiagra has lost the cables out of the side of the shifters
 
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cyberknight

cyberknight

As long as I breathe, I attack.
105 aesthetically, cables routed like SRAM . Unless the new tiagra has lost the cables out of the side of the shifters
the new tiagra has hidden cables like 105 .
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vickster

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I wouldn't expect to get much back. I don't get on with Shimano for the opposite reason, hood size and shape, just can't get the purchase on the brakes. I don't think I ever actually used the brifters to brake when I had the giant with Tiagra, on,y ever the cross levers

I don't have cross brakes on the carbon and happily brake on the brifters, although I can get sore hands braking on big hills (I'm a wuss) but that's probably as much strength and flexibility and dodgy upper limbs as hood shape
On the Genesis, I have cross brakes which I use in traffic but I'll brake from the brifters on emptier roads :smile:. Both now have rival
 

burndust

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I recently changed from apex to 5800 on my CX team...considered tiagra but there's wasn't that much of a price difference 40 quid!...its so much better than apex far smoother
 

vickster

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I recently changed from apex to 5800 on my CX team...considered tiagra but there's wasn't that much of a price difference 40 quid!...its so much better than apex far smoother
Not really comparing like with like. I swapped from apex to 11 speed rival which is 105 equivalent and found the same
 
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cyberknight

cyberknight

As long as I breathe, I attack.
I recently changed from apex to 5800 on my CX team...considered tiagra but there's wasn't that much of a price difference 40 quid!...its so much better than apex far smoother
It would be 5700 the 10 speed 105 if i went for 105 which is more likely as tiagra is out of stock now :sad: .
 
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cyberknight

cyberknight

As long as I breathe, I attack.
It's worth doing if you can't get on with the SRAM way of shifting. Which is a perfectly good reason.
I think for now i will try to get on with the sram shifters, seems im looking to spend money and gain no benefit , it might be more a case that i just need to ride it more !
 
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