To the commuter who called me an a*sehole

[gaz]

Ok, So your saying they have a right to walk across a road while on the phone for example? My point is Pedestrians do careless things too on the road but they dont get a penalty for it?

Can you make out a good argument as to why a pedestrian would need to get a penalty?
You don't get many people walking into the roads without looking and cause an issue (percentage wise when comparing those that do to total amour of peds.)

As we all know, speeding penalties stop people from speeding.

 

[Tynan]

I didn't even read the reason that made it ok, there's no such reason, you wouldn't accept one form a car that justified them jumping a red

if more people made other people committing anti social infractions of low level civil rules and maners we might have less chavs, yobs and rude self centered idiots

like it or not peds are 'allowed' to cross as they see fit

 

[SportMonkey]

I didn't even read the reason that made it ok, there's no such reason, you wouldn't accept one form a car that justified them jumping a red

if more people made other people committing anti social infractions of low level civil rules and maners we might have less chavs, yobs and rude self centered idiots

like it or not peds are 'allowed' to cross as they see fit

If less people drank Carling "we might have less chavs, yobs and rude self centered idiots."

 

[Bicycle]

I write as a former serial offender in this matter (but only on a bicycle).

(I even altered the timing points for my commute to reduce the temptation to RLJ when on a good time..)

But this is what I think:

If you RLJ, people will yell. It was ever so. Suck it up.

Remember the feeling when yelled at & bear it in mind if tempted to yell at RLJs (which I imagine you're not).

We've all said in our own defence: "The justification on this occasion was..."

The simple matter of giving that sentence some thought is already proof that you're guilt-tripping yourself.

I think I've patronised enough now.

 

[SportMonkey]

I write as a former serial offender in this matter (but only on a bicycle).

(I even altered the timing points for my commute to reduce the temptation to RLJ when on a good time..)

But this is what I think:

If you RLJ, people will yell. It was ever so. Suck it up.

Remember the feeling when yelled at & bear it in mind if tempted to yell at RLJs (which I imagine you're not).

We've all said in our own defence: "The justification on this occasion was..."

The simple matter of giving that sentence some thought is already proof that you're guilt-tripping yourself.

I think I've patronised enough now.

I didn't find it patronising at all. I never complained about the other rider yelling it, we had quite a pleasant chat in the end. I'm not guilt tripping myself, just trying to lessen the abuse on here.

I wouldn't have thought you'd need to put "but only on a bicycle" though.

 

[Bicycle]

I didn't find it patronising at all. I never complained about the other rider yelling it, we had quite a pleasant chat in the end. I'm not guilt tripping myself, just trying to lessen the abuse on here.

I wouldn't have thought you'd need to put "but only on a bicycle" though.

My apologies. I'd skim-read the OP. And hurrah for lessening the abuse...

I think it's quite cool that you admitted on this forum that you'd hopped a red (as we used to describe it).

As to 'but only on a bicycle' back when I was a motorcycle courier, there was a part of the traffic-light sequence known as a mature amber. I'm taking the Fifth on any further questions about that.

 

[Sheffield_Tiger]

I do comment, but I don't call people names. Unless they RLJ across my path, then it just comes out...

Normally I just make a comment such as "Red lights are cheating, you should ride faster instead" - if they look like they care about their speed and would take that personally

Otherwise just plain old "Red Light!"


There ARE people out there who think that they are indeed "POB"s and that bicycles are a kind of pedestrian vehicle bound by the same lack of rules re: red lights as pedestrians

 

[subaqua]

If less people drank Stella "we might have less chavs, yobs and rude self centered idiots."

FTFY

 

[BentMikey]

fewer

FTFY

 

[John the Monkey]

Ok, So your saying they have a right to walk across a road while on the phone for example? My point is Pedestrians do careless things too on the road but they dont get a penalty for it?

Pedestrians have absolute priority. And are also among the most vulnerable of road users. Whether you're in a car, or on a bike, you should take care around them.

It's not always the case, but a lot of folk who moan about them "suddenly stepping out" seem to hoon along without looking at what's around them (or focussing on the motor traffic to the exclusion of the folk on the pavement). Personally, I know the problem parts of my commute for this behaviour, and I cover my brakes, slow, and look out for them.

As for not getting a penalty, I'd say getting knocked flat on your arse is a fairly severe one.

 

[VamP]

As to 'but only on a bicycle' back when I was a motorcycle courier, there was a part of the traffic-light sequence known as a mature amber. I'm taking the Fifth on any further questions about that.

I remember those days.

Amber light was also known as *five more cars only please*. Pre traffic cameras times - ah the nostalgia.

 

[Bicycle]

I remember those days.

Amber light was also known as *five more cars only please*. Pre traffic cameras times - ah the nostalgia.

Those were the days when a keen courier on a trail bike could ride up the steps outside St Pancras Station to drop off a parcel - and ride down again when it was delivered.

Was I the only courier who always carried two letters in my top box, one addressed to each end of Oxford Street?

That way, when pulled over for riding on Oxford Street, I'd whip out the appropriate letter and say 'delivering'.

I'm a grown-up now, but I wasn't then.

What's a good antidote to nostalgia?

 

[McrJ64]

The car wasn't a big black newish one was it (possibly Lexus), reg starts NA11 or MA11, driver in his 50s, black suit?

You'll know further up the A56, before Old Trafford, there's a fork off to the right to Talbot Road. I was in the right hand lane to fork off (I wish he would) and he couldn't wait so pulled over to my left to force me over and get in front. When he realised he wouldn't make it in time, he slammed on the brakes, pulled in behind and then to my right to force me over. I met him at the next lights. His window was down ready to have a right go at me. I stopped at the police station on Talbot Road and gave them what I thought was his reg. but it wasn't the right format so no luck. If it was the same nutter, did you get a reg number?

 

[400bhp]

which crossing in Sale? I know the road very well.

 

[McrJ64]

The driver wasn't in his 50s, black suit, driving a new big black car (maybe Lexus), reg. NA11... or MA11..., was he?

He cut me up terribly on both my left and then my right on the A56 at the fork onto Talbot Road, then gave me a mouthfull, for what I really really don't know.

I went into the police station but I must have got the reg. wrong because it was the wrong format.