Tomorrow!

[magnatom]

Leffe was on offer.

I've not had a great week on the bike and needed to just let it out. I'm kinda grateful to VDBP for touching my earth cable to ground.

I hope it was nothing serious, and that you now feel fully 'discharged' .

 

[Jezston]

I just want to add how excellent Bollo's post was.

I also want to add how excellent Leffe is.

 

[Vikeonabike]

Business or pleasure?

Business

...and will you actually be pulling them over or just clocking them on video. Can you actually use the video on its own for prosecution?

Yep, Checked the video for one I didn't catch today, shows him on his phone..NIP in the post

I doubt Vike would be allowed to post it on-line. What is the problem with filming someone on a mobile phone and getting them points on their licience. If they don't want the points it's easy enough to avoid isn't it.

I can't post on line, however that does'nt stop others doing so.

 

[gouldina]

I just want to add how excellent Bollo's post was.

I also want to add how excellent Leffe is.

Indeed. Like the US constitution, we hold these truths to be self-evident.

 

[gouldina]

Business

Business or no, it sounds like fun to me.

 

[magnatom]

Excellent!

I assume your camera system is designed with an audit trail, i.e. you can trace back to the original data in some way to prove it hasn't been tampered with, and you can be sure of the date etc?

What is the make of camera system out of interest?

And the most important question....why isn't this done more? If this sort of system was used more, and, importantly, was advertised as such, then I think the number of mobile using drivers would drop drastically. (Especially if lots of cyclists got cameras and wore POLITE jackets! )

 

[Bollo]

Excellent!

+1. It must be like shooting fish in a barrel though? With an AK. At slow fish.

 

[John the Monkey]

Do you think it has had any kind of knock on affect on behaviour (as opposed to just catching more people) if motorists think they are more likely to get caught. Do you think the vehicle is easy to spot? I must admit I assume it just drove around rather than parked up to catch motorists.

There are studies (recent one from Belgium, iirc) that show that prosecuting infractions of traffic law does reduce casualties.

Studies from the US show that the speed a driver perceives as "safe" for a particular road is directly related to the likelihood of them getting a ticket for exceeding the speed limit. (Both studies are mentioned on Tom Vanderbilt's "How We Drive" blog).

 

[Jezston]

Vike: You need a small device for playing back audio. Why? Allow me to explain:

Shot of driver in car talking on phone. Phone in one hand, steering wheel in other.
External shot, showing car stopping at lights. Motorcycle officer enters shot pulling up besides car.
Back to internal shot. Driver is distracted from his call by the sound of tapping on glass. Driver turns to look out of window to see motorcycle officer staring back at him. Motorcycle officer taps at camera attached to helmet.
"Ker-ching!" sound effect plays.

 

[summerdays]

There are studies (recent one from Belgium, iirc) that show that prosecuting infractions of traffic law does reduce casualties.

Studies from the US show that the speed a driver perceives as "safe" for a particular road is directly related to the likelihood of them getting a ticket for exceeding the speed limit. (Both studies are mentioned on Tom Vanderbilt's "How We Drive" blog).

That's sort of what I meant ... but if Exeter residents think they have a greater chance of getting caught will it only make them change their behaviour in Exeter or do you think it has an effect on them when they are elsewhere in the country? I guess its the difference between not doing it in case you get caught vs not doing it because you believe it is wrong.

 

[Muddyfox]

Summer ... i dont really have any statistics for motoring offences with the mobile cctv van but i would imagine its like most places where people slow down for cameras and then speed up again so once they are out of the area they will continue as normal, sadly its the threat of a fine and points on a license that slows people down and not the thought of knocking a child over ( we live in a very selfish world)

However ... the incidents for anti social behavour have dropped dramatically since the mobile van was introduced

Simon

 

[Vikeonabike]

Mixed results today, Got a couple of good ones. Then the camera decided to play up.....
Not sure, what happened but the record kept shutting it's self off after a few minutes. Battery power was low I think....

Anyway we have these....
http://www.robocamuk.com/product_specifications_rc001.php

Picture quality is pretty good.
Maganatom is correct we do have an audit trail, and I can't just get rid of any unwanted footage. It's downloaded into two files on a standalone computer marked evidential and non-evidential. Only a supervisor can then get rid of the footage after a specific length of time.

 

[Vikeonabike]

i think its a pathetic trend from the car bashers, that sadly too many people are starting to buy into (cheaper kit probably hasn't helped).

i also think its a self fulfilling prophecy. any helmet cam sado who puts their 'all four wheelers are evil' paradigm goggles on will without fail find examples of bad driving to film and show online, promoting their own little egos at the same time.

newsflash, it's not going to make the roads magically safer!

i'm a great believer in taking things to the end result, and imagine if we all filmed and reported each other, is that somewhere we would want to live? although, if you remove the helmet cams, i'm sure there are a few examples of similar in recent history

VDBP....The reason I have fitted the cam to my motorbike helmet is because I am in court for the forth time over somebody disputing a mobile phone whilst driving charge. Evidentially it is only my word against there's as it is considered a little OTT to seize their mobile as proof (not that that would bother me). If I have the footage then there can be no dispute.....

 

[summerdays]

Can't you use mobile phone records of usage to prove it... I know in the past Mr Summerdays in a previous job had to produce evidence to prove the location that a phone call was made in - not on a regular basis but I know that there was a case in which he had to provide scientific evidence - no idea what aspect of technical knowledge that was used - more than just the phone log.

 

[Bollo]

Good work Mr V!

I had a quick scan on the web and there's plenty of solicitors willing to help dodge a mobile phone prosecution, so I can understand your methods. I take it all those pulled over were just making this one call, weren't aware that it was illegal and considered it another stealth tax on the poor beleaguered motorist? Also, why weren't you out catching proper criminals?