Top Gear, Evans version, starts Sunday....

[Dec66]

It was always tolerable for the "talent" to behave like that, as evidenced by the fact it was tolerated.

And that's how Jimmy Savile, Gary Glitter, Stuart Hall et al got away with it for so long. Because they were "talent" who were "tolerated" by people like you.

Does that make you proud? Nostalgic for the "good old days", before " PC went mad"?

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

Ha! I was a stage manager, not in any position to do anything other than suck it up.

I don't believe for a second the "stars" are any different nowadays, it's the way some of them are. Maybe they're just a bit more careful now.

By all accounts, Evans is cut from the same cloth but at least Clarkson punched out Piers Morgan - brownie points for that!

 

[Dec66]

Ha! I was a stage manager, not in any position to do anything other than suck it up.

Yes, you were. You could have reported any of that stuff, had you encountered it.

So many people in that position. And, yet, the job was more important to them that the stuff those sickening monsters got away with.

Make me sick to the pit of my stomach, frankly.

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

[QUOTE 4302888, member: 45"]Clarkson wasn't tolerated, he was sacked.

It's not how it is.[/QUOTE]

He wasn't sacked actually, his contract wasn't renewed.

And he's still regularly on the BBC presenting things like Have I Got News For You.

 

[Dec66]

He wasn't sacked actually, his contract wasn't renewed.

And he's still regularly on the BBC presenting things like Have I Got News For You.

Once, on a show made for the BBC by an independent production company, on non-BBC premises, a booking which had been made several months before his drunken hissy fit.

That's not terribly "regular", is it?

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

hmm, I thought I saw him on that more recently. Must have been mistaken.

Still - http://www.theguardian.com/media/20...kson-given-green-light-to-appear-on-bbc-shows

The BBC said the issue of Clarkson has been “considered at the highest level” and that while his contract had not been renewed on Top Gear, he was “not banned from appearing on the BBC altogether”

 

[Dec66]

hmm, I thought I saw him on that more recently. Must have been mistaken.

Still - http://www.theguardian.com/media/20...kson-given-green-light-to-appear-on-bbc-shows

Do you need me to point out the difference between "appearing on" and "employed by"?

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

[QUOTE 4303354, member: 45"]The point is, he lost his job because he assaulted a colleague.

He wasn't tolerated.[/QUOTE]

And was promptly offered £160m to make programmes by another company in the same industry.

Do you need me to point out the difference between "appearing on" and "employed by"?

What they have in common is payment.

 

[Dec66]

What they have in common is payment.

By whom?

His HIGNFY appearance would be paid for by Hat Trick Productions, not the BBC.

The BBC would have paid Hat Trick, naturally, but would have had no say as to the presenter.

He won't be directly contracted again by the BBC as long as he has an hole in his arse.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Sat through it to give it a go as I thought it might be better than the tosh served up by the previous trio.

To me it was same old same old - it's a tired format, lightweight and laced with juvenile humour imo.

The Reliant Robin sketch could've been penned by Class 5 in the Infants School - absolutely dire.

Seemed to appeal to the 'right-on' braying audience though.

As for the Shouty Chef - what a tool he looked with his Boasty Key.

 

[Brandane]

I heard someone today on the radio singing it's praises. Apparently this new TG is wonderful and attracted nearly 6 million viewers.
No prizes for guessing which radio presenter came away with these comments. Just wait and see how many viewers subsequent episodes get.

 

[Levo-Lon]

I heard someone today on the radio singing it's praises. Apparently this new TG is wonderful and attracted nearly 6 million viewers.
No prizes for guessing which radio presenter came away with these comments. Just wait and see how many viewers subsequent episodes get.

a whild stab in the dark @Brandane

 

[mickle]

What a dog's dinner. They've obviously thought ' if it's not broke don't fix it' and not changed a single thing about the show. Evans and Leblank have none of the comraderie that made old top gear watchable, they've just plonked these two new bods into a tarted up studio and hoped for the best. Same production values. Same script. Same stupid The Stag and the same stupid stag introduction! Lame. Cringeworthy. Worse even than the terminally dumb 5th Gear. I'll not be watching it again.

 

[Cubist]

I'm 'tsame. Woeful remix of the same old formula.

 

[Piemaster]

I suspect that, as the show is now an international franchise, that the format is not allowed to be changed. So the new presenters are just that...it's not a new show.

The American version is different, they did try the same studio format early on but as it obviously wasn't working (hmm...) so now they only do 'challenge' type shows. Take 3 different cars, drive them (within some part of the USA) and take part in challenges along the way. Winner gets to test drive latest supercar of some sort.