Totally off topic....any care home managers on here?

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

Can't speak for the care sector at all, however very similar things happen with the policing sector. There are good gaffers, and there are bad gaffers. There are gaffers that have worked their way up whilst doing the job on the street, and there are fast tracked ones that have worked in back office projects and given presentations.

The groups show a rather clear and obvious correlation between themselves.

I find the OPs method of dealing with the disagreement of most quite worrying for someone seeking a management role too... deleting everything and pretend it didn't happen...

This is an unfair comment, you don't dont know the reasoning for deletion and you don't know the content of the deleted posts. Only parts that have been quoted.

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

[QUOTE 2354647, member: 45"]No, I'm not talking about you. I don't know what your background is.

A care manager should be the expert on everything that goes on in the home. They should be able to do and know everything they expect the staff to do. They should know what it's like to lead shifts, work under shift leaders, get 20 people up in the morning, etc etc. You can only get that with experience.

That's not the case. My best staff are those without a degree who started at the bottom. Give them the training as they go along -which is what the Diplomas are about- and once they're at management level they tick all the boxes.[/quote]
Tbf I didn't say you in particular, I said the care sector.

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

This is an unfair comment, you don't dont know the reasoning for deletion and you don't know the content of the deleted posts. Only parts that have been quoted.

You got told things you didn't want to hear and threw your toys out of the pram. Accused people of trying to make you look like an arse, when in fact you did a marvelous job of it yourself.

Now everyone knows the reason

 

[CopperCyclist]

This is an unfair comment, you don't dont know the reasoning for deletion and you don't know the content of the deleted posts. Only parts that have been quoted.

Perhaps. The only reason I don't have the full balance though is due to your own choice.

The gist I get is... You've recently completed qualifications that let you become a care home manager and were asking for advice from people who may have knowledge in this sector. Some of the advice suggested that you shouldn't as you haven't been in the environment 'learning the trade' so to speak, and so even thought technically qualified, in their opinion you weren't suitable. You disagreed with this and an argument ensued.

Am I far off?

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

Perhaps. The only reason I don't have the full balance though is due to your own choice.

The gist I get is... You've recently completed qualifications that let you become a care home manager and were asking for advice from people who may have knowledge in this sector. Some of the advice suggested that you shouldn't as you haven't been in the environment 'learning the trade' so to speak, and so even thought technically qualified, in their opinion you weren't suitable. You disagreed with this and an argument ensued.

Am I far off?

With all due respect you are miles off, no that wasn't the reason and tbh I can't be bothered going into the reasons.

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

You got told things you didn't want to hear and threw your toys out of the pram. Accused people of trying to make you look like an arse, when in fact you did a marvelous job of it yourself.

Now everyone knows the reason

Colinj is right about you, you really an obnoxious pratt! (This was pointed at T.M.H.N.E.T, the post was removed, or I can't see it now he's on ignore, don't know don't care).

 

[T.M.H.N.E.T]

Colinj is right about you, you really an obnoxious pratt! (This was pointed at T.M.H.N.E.T, the post was removed, or I can't see it now he's on ignore, don't know don't care).

Hello pot,this is kettle.

Is this how you would deal with an upset family member as the manager of a care home?

 

[rich p]

Great thread!
OT, I believe you think TMHNET is a prat, not a pratt.
Sorry, carry on!

 

[Arch]

This is an unfair comment, you don't dont know the reasoning for deletion and you don't know the content of the deleted posts. Only parts that have been quoted.

See, that's what happens when you delete stuff when it suits you, people have to make assumptions.

From what I've been able to read (the same as CopperCyclist I think), he seems spot on with his analysis. If you had different reasons, maybe you should have left all the posts for people to read.

Generally I've found in life that people who've done the job and worked up, make good managers - if for no other reason than that staff recognise and respect that their boss does know how the job works, and how hard it can be.

 

[Sara_H]

See, that's what happens when you delete stuff when it suits you, people have to make assumptions.

From what I've been able to read (the same as CopperCyclist I think), he seems spot on with his analysis. If you had different reasons, maybe you should have left all the posts for people to read.

Generally I've found in life that people who've done the job and worked up, make good managers - if for no other reason than that staff recognise and respect that their boss does know how the job works, and how hard it can be.

I think the OP has failed to realise a huge difference in nursing management to management in other area's.
Nursing management is about clinical expertise first, and that clinical expertise can only be gained though experience.
In a care home the manager will usually be the only qualified nurse on duty meaning they are responsible for planning the care and administering all the medication for all the residents that day.
What happens when the staff in the care home turn to their manager for clinical support and the manager can't give it
I find the OP's suggestion that h/she is in a position to manage a care home ludicrous, and their response to posts questioning ths bizarre.

 

[Arch]

I find the OP's suggestion that h/she is in a position to manage a care home ludicrous, and their response to posts questioning ths bizarre.

I wonder if the OP has some relative experience they haven't mentioned - although why not mention it? I agree the response is odd.

Thinking more about good managers, having said the good ones have often worked up, of course it stands that there needs to be some aptitude for management, and the person has to want to do it. No matter how good a worker someone is, some people just aren't cut out for management, or don't enjoy it - I'm one of them!

 

[Robson3022]

My family have all worked in care for most of there lives and most of them have been damn good Managers of care homes all with 10+ years experience on the floor.

 

[Sara_H]

I wonder if the OP has some relative experience they haven't mentioned - although why not mention it? I agree the response is odd.

Thing is, you can't really get relevant experience of being a qualified nurse without being a qualified nurse. It's a very specific skill set.

 

[Arch]

Thing is, you can't really get relevant experience of being a qualified nurse without being a qualified nurse. It's a very specific skill set.

oh yes, I'm sure it is. I saw a quote where the OP mentioned 'banking', and it occurred to me that it didn't mean the financial sort, but the staffing sort. Still, if it was relevant experience, why not mention it?

 

[Sara_H]

I'm presuming that the banking referred to unqualified care work, which many student nurses do, but this wouldn't be relevant experience.