Tour de France 2015 - may contain nuts and SPOILERS

[ColinJ]

My theory is if you were born in Scotland, yer Scottish.. England, yer English..
I don't buy this 'My grandad was Scottish'pish..
you are where you were born..

So if your ancestors were Scottish, your grandparents are Scottish, and your parents are Scottish, but your mum took a day trip to Carlisle while heavily pregnant, went into labour unexpectedly and gave birth to you on the 'wrong side' of the border, but then took you home again a couple of days later and you have spent your entire life in Scotland, then you are ... English?

 

[Dayvo]

So if your ancestors were Scottish, your grandparents are Scottish, and your parents are Scottish, but your mum took a day trip to Carlisle while heavily pregnant, went into labour unexpectedly and gave birth to you on the 'wrong side' of the border, but then took you home again a couple of days later and you have spent your entire life in Scotland, then you are ... English?

Yeah, if you're lucky!

 

[coffeejo]

Actually properly fixed that for you. It's an inconvenient truth that the Queen is less than a quarter German by lineage as her mother was from long-standing English/Scottish heritage and her grandparents had mixed lineage. And as Bobby Mhor said, where you are born has to play a part. If you have to go back to your great, great, great grandfather to find the last in your direct line to be born in Germany, you aint German.

Prince Phillip regards himself as Danish FWIW.

I can't work out the "greats" but I'm a member of the sixth generation of my family who wasn't born in Germany. The ancestors, W & J, were both born in the town of Endingen in Baden, as it was then, and their families emigrated separately to the Americas in the 1880s. W & J met in California as young adults. Not all the family left Germany. Both "sides" were fought for in both World Wars.

 

[smutchin]

Nationality is an artificial construct based on political whim. In sporting contexts, nationality is entirely arbitrary, your eligibility for a particular nationality determined by the laws of the sport's governing body. End of.

 

[Bobby Mhor]

So if your ancestors were Scottish, your grandparents are Scottish, and your parents are Scottish, but your mum took a day trip to Carlisle while heavily pregnant, went into labour unexpectedly and gave birth to you on the 'wrong side' of the border, but then took you home again a couple of days later and you have spent your entire life in Scotland, then you are ... English?

Of course..
its where you pop out that counts..
luckily my mum stayed at home

 

[400bhp]

Nationality is an artificial construct based political whim. In sporting contexts, nationality is entirely arbitrary, your eligibility for a particular nationality determined by the laws of the sport's governing body. End of.

Brilliant response, one which I would like to have written if I had the talent/be arsed attitude.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

Apart from when you are Scottish, cos we are the bestest.

 

[smutchin]

Apart from when you are Scottish, cos we are the bestest.

Until you start being successful, when you become British.

 

[smutchin]

Brilliant response, one which I would like to have written if I had the talent/be arsed attitude.

I copied it off the internet.

 

[rualexander]

Great GoPro videos from every stage https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLU-MdhZSPm4YKDGOZmm1urqZzd15MYMYu

 

[HF2300]

I copied it off the internet.

Ah, that's why it's wrong then.

 

[Supersuperleeds]

Apart from when you are from Yorkshire, cos we are the bestest.

Completely agree

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

Completely agree

twat

 

[robertob]

Great GoPro videos from every stage https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLU-MdhZSPm4YKDGOZmm1urqZzd15MYMYu

Awesome!

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

Eritrea welcomes home Daniel Teklehaimanot and Merhawi Kudus

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gS-RtKJvQI