Without going into detail as this forum doesn’t like serious subjects you really should read up on how he built that industry, and where he is taking it.
Tour de France 2025 (CONTAINS SPOILERS!)
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mididoctors
Über Member
Ineos are 5hit now . There's no other way of saying it .
M.R.M
Well-Known Member
Ok thanks. I will. I was only referring to him building a company as a founder, coming from modest means, which is obviously a hard thing to do. I don't have any knowledge beyond that on him or Ineos. 😊
mididoctors
Über Member
It was mad when he won San Sebastian at the age of 8 or whatever it was . everyone said he was the goat
Pross
Veteran
Aren’t Ineos without a bike sponsor still for next year? Could it be that is due to ongoing discussions with Remco or another big rider that comes with a bike caveat?
stage hunter
Active Member
I think Remco is off to Red Bull.
Blazing Saddles
Senior Member
Anyhow, as far as today’s stage is concerned, if it weren’t already boring enough, it’s a headwind/cross headwind all day.
That is the plan for Sunday.
No Ta Doctor
Senior Member
There's cricket on, if you like sports that go on for bloody ages in the summer.
Jameshow
Veteran
There submarine racing on too in the Atlantic too, so I'm informed - much more exciting!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
ColinJ
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That has just made me think of a friend who once asked why I enjoyed watching "long, slow, and boring" cycle races. What I failed to point out at the time was that he was a cricket fan who loved to spend 5 days watching "long, slow, and boring" test matches!!
No Ta Doctor
Senior Member
So, UAE/Visma mind games and tactics the last two days...
Happy-go-lucky boy-racer cheeky-chappy potential GOAT Pogacar has clearly been trying to introduce a little needle into things. On stage 6 he said he didn't understand Visma's tactics riding the last two climbs super hard - maybe they wanted him in yellow, and stage 7 he said he thought that Visma (Jonas and Jorgenson) didn't want to cooperate to try for the stage win (presumably with Jorgenson leading Vingegaard out).
While Visma say they didn't ride to put Pog in yellow on stage 6 (think they have to say that or Pog's alliance with Alpecin/MvdP is strengthened) they probably did, but Campenaerts also explained their hard riding as a defensive strategy, preventing attacks from going earlier and Pog maybe gaining a bunch of seconds. Pog sounded genuinely annoyed by it, as if the fact that he's the massive favourite means he should get an armchair ride and be able to do as he likes. He said they'd considered going for the stage, but had decided not to "spend bullets", which I think they were made to do a little.
As for the stage 7 comments, that's just a weird thing to say, it's obvious that Jonas wants to be on Pog's wheel, because if he's on Jorgenson's wheel and Pog goes early he's going to get gapped very quickly. (Vingegaard also says after the stage he made a mistake and had wanted to leave a slight gap to attack).
To me Pog is starting to grate a little, clearly there's a sharper edge to him than is commonly portrayed, but he's allowed to shape this narrative that Visma's tactics are weird/stupid/unintelligible and that Visma have internal conflicts and the media suck it up uncritically, because he's the nice smiley boy.
Happy-go-lucky boy-racer cheeky-chappy potential GOAT Pogacar has clearly been trying to introduce a little needle into things. On stage 6 he said he didn't understand Visma's tactics riding the last two climbs super hard - maybe they wanted him in yellow, and stage 7 he said he thought that Visma (Jonas and Jorgenson) didn't want to cooperate to try for the stage win (presumably with Jorgenson leading Vingegaard out).
While Visma say they didn't ride to put Pog in yellow on stage 6 (think they have to say that or Pog's alliance with Alpecin/MvdP is strengthened) they probably did, but Campenaerts also explained their hard riding as a defensive strategy, preventing attacks from going earlier and Pog maybe gaining a bunch of seconds. Pog sounded genuinely annoyed by it, as if the fact that he's the massive favourite means he should get an armchair ride and be able to do as he likes. He said they'd considered going for the stage, but had decided not to "spend bullets", which I think they were made to do a little.
As for the stage 7 comments, that's just a weird thing to say, it's obvious that Jonas wants to be on Pog's wheel, because if he's on Jorgenson's wheel and Pog goes early he's going to get gapped very quickly. (Vingegaard also says after the stage he made a mistake and had wanted to leave a slight gap to attack).
To me Pog is starting to grate a little, clearly there's a sharper edge to him than is commonly portrayed, but he's allowed to shape this narrative that Visma's tactics are weird/stupid/unintelligible and that Visma have internal conflicts and the media suck it up uncritically, because he's the nice smiley boy.
No Ta Doctor
Senior Member
Submarine racing? How the hell does that work as a spectator sport? 🤯
