Tour de France 2025 (CONTAINS SPOILERS!)

[mididoctors]

Together again but strung out

 

[Dogtrousers]

Well, that’s a disappointing break, if it sticks.
Now it’s a minute to bridge which should deter a lot of riders…

Not for me. It has Abrahamsen, who is in my team specifically to get breakaway points.
But it's a long way to the half way point.
And gap has gone down a bit.

 

[N0bodyOfTheGoat]

Where pog and Jonas are I have no idea I

5mins up the road in their own little breakaway?

 

[mididoctors]

These 3 are sneaking away

 

[phreak]

The Jorgenson (possible) manoeuvre/strategy would only work in bigger mountain stages, a la Roglic and Vinny,a few years back on the Granon?

And then only if Pog thinks Jorgenson as serious a threat as he did Roglic.

Maybe if we're digging up tactics from a bygone time, Pogacar will wait for the final mountain TT and take a minute+ out of Vingegaard. That worked once, so it's guaranteed to work again (seems to be what we're going with here).

 

[phreak]

On stage ten the climb wasn't really long or steep enough to make a difference - at the speed they're going during an attack there's a few % points to be gained by being in the wheel. It was also far more Pog territory than Jonas, so would have been risky to try anything there. Åart of Visma's aggressive riding in the first ten days was to limit the bonus seconds / small gaps that Pog has often got on this sort of terrain.

That's worked a charm then, as Pogacar has gained 12 seconds in bonifications over Vingegaard so far. If their tactics are designed to limit their losses, then the GC would seem to make more sense as it stands.

 

[mididoctors]

Still groups trying to bridge

 

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A cohort of Frenchmen in pursuit

 

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A cohort of Frenchmen in pursuit

Groupama desperately chasing having missed out

 

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Long chase

 

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Groupama prise thenselves off the front

 

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WvA pushes on

 

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Peloton splitting again

 

[No Ta Doctor]

That's worked a charm then, as Pogacar has gained 12 seconds in bonifications over Vingegaard so far. If their tactics are designed to limit their losses, then the GC would seem to make more sense as it stands.

I'd say it's been pretty effective. In ten days on terrain that largely suited Pog he opened no time gaps, managed 12 seconds advantage in bonuses and didn't ride for at least two possible stage wins people thought he would go for. Barring the disastrous TT that's about perfect for the opener for Visma. Could easily have been four stages won with Jonas out of the bonuses and maybe a handful of seconds on top of that, so maybe a minute without the TT.

 

[mididoctors]

Visma behind ...... Remco behind ... Milan behind There's no control at all