Tour de France 2025 (CONTAINS SPOILERS!)

[mididoctors]

I genuinely think he's all in to try to win and couldn't care less about another podium so it's what he has to do.

Where does he attack ?

 

[andrew_s]

Lipo is at 40 sec, Kuss, Yateses, Onley, Narvaez at 1:20, Arensman dropped

 

[No Ta Doctor]

My guess: Jonas on an up and over, Jorgenson in limpet mode for Pog's backwheel on the descent

Dunno what the descent is like, if it's technical it probably favours Jonas, if it's power then it's good for Pog

 

[Pross]

Vauquelin has remembered he is French in the third week and is losing time to attack with panache on the weekend.

 

[Dorset Boy]

My guess: Jonas on an up and over, Jorgenson in limpet mode for Pog's backwheel on the descent

Dunno what the descent is like, if it's technical it probably favours Jonas, if it's power then it's good for Pog

Descent is fast and sweeping, but some corners tighten

 

[mididoctors]

Atta k on the descent?

 

[Blazing Saddles]

Lipowitz can get to the front group on the long descent but Onley and co can’t

 

[N0bodyOfTheGoat]

Are Pog and Vin equal at 2000m+?

I vaguely remember 2000m being talked about when Bernal attacked in '19 and him coping much better at high altitude and low oxygen.

 

[mididoctors]

Good fan sign

 

[andrew_s]

Lipo at 30 sec at top, Onley grp 1:55

 

[No Ta Doctor]

My guess: Jonas on an up and over, Jorgenson in limpet mode for Pog's backwheel on the descent

Dunno what the descent is like, if it's technical it probably favours Jonas, if it's power then it's good for Pog

Well it wasn't that, so it's just get him isolated early, Jorgenson leads into Col de la Loze and then one on one fight (barring intervention from one of the few left in the GC group)

 

[N0bodyOfTheGoat]

Pog was leading them down the descent before the break.

Having made an effort to get second Kom points.

 

[Blazing Saddles]

Jonas riding a bit too close to Jorgeson’s rear wheel for my liking.

 

[No Ta Doctor]

Are Pog and Vin equal at 2000m+?

I vaguely remember 2000m being talked about when Bernal attacked in '19 and him coping much better at high altitude and low oxygen.

It's one of Pog's supposed potential weaknesses - long climbs, heat, altitude, third week fatigue. He's dealt with all of them at some point, but there's little else to try. It's certainly where Jonas should be best, whether that's enough or not

 

[N0bodyOfTheGoat]

Tiniest of gaps developing between Vin Jorge and a chasing Pog.