Touring bike - flat bars

[Rickshaw Phil]

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Only perverts and deviants want loads of strap ons........

Ummmmm, who's been talking?

Are you talking about the Pioneer Jaguar by any chance? I've found the same thing with the welded type frame. It's a good strong bike, but I do prefer the fit of the previous lugged & brazed version which has a shorter top tube. Why Raleigh sought to redesign it is a mystery to me as the lugged frame is a good one, and they could have just replicated the existing geometry!. I did think about fitting a spare set of North Road bars to shorten the reach, but the gripshift changers require too much straight section, so I abandoned the idea..

No, it's my Hawk Trakatak. For me the Pioneer Jaguar works fine with straight bars, bar ends and an 80mm stem.