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robgul
Legendary Member
The immediately preceding three or four of posts here and the Facebook page referred to make it all pretty clear .....
Rob
Touring Cyclist Club
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The immediately preceding three or four of posts here and the Facebook page referred to make it all pretty clear .....
Rob
contadino
Veteran
- Location
- Chesterfield
...as mud (at least to me)
So is the website going to have travelogues? Routes? Campsite reviews? Product reviews?
Or is it just for minutes, rules, agendas, and committee mandates?
So is the website going to have travelogues? Routes? Campsite reviews? Product reviews?
Or is it just for minutes, rules, agendas, and committee mandates?
jay clock
Massive member
- Location
- Hampshire UK
That Facebook page is a laugh a minute. Sounds like the sort of people who LOVE committee meetings but no mention of bike riding
jay clock
Massive member
- Location
- Hampshire UK
I have signed up for info but to be honest it sounds like it will be a poor man's Crazy Guy On A Bike - which they want you to pay for
To be fair, it is a page about ctc polices/structures/objectives and what to do about the "executve" capture of ctc by a charity quangocracy to the detriment of cycling members esp touring cyclists.
martint235
Dog on a bike
- Location
- Welling
Hopefully it'll turn into a club like the CTC should have been. We'll see. Hoping for a club that uses its membership to bargain collectively for change or for discounts. A club that facilitates the sharing of information etc, there may even be rides but that is less important to me.
What is incredibly important is that the club doesn't follow the route CTC and in particular LCC followed by having an agenda set by an elite few but then peddled as the thoughts of the majority. If that happens I'll be off.
contadino
Veteran
- Location
- Chesterfield
See, I don't know what the CTC is, or the LCC, or the 'elite few' or 'the majority' or even what 'changes' are being bargained for. None of that matters to me.
Nor do discounts. Specially when they come at the cost of a subscription fee (and the two never equate.) I prefer to buy gear 2nd hand anyway.
Being able to read about a route, where was good to camp/stay, what bike/gear to take, what time of year to go, which bits to detour.... That's what I'd like to read about. I get a bit of what I want to read about from here, more from YACF, CGOAB. That's why the Two Wheeled Touring site looks promising to me.
I'm unlikely to go back to that new, empty website. Sounds like it's irrelevant to me, pointless, and poorly thought out. YMMV.
Nor do discounts. Specially when they come at the cost of a subscription fee (and the two never equate.) I prefer to buy gear 2nd hand anyway.
Being able to read about a route, where was good to camp/stay, what bike/gear to take, what time of year to go, which bits to detour.... That's what I'd like to read about. I get a bit of what I want to read about from here, more from YACF, CGOAB. That's why the Two Wheeled Touring site looks promising to me.
I'm unlikely to go back to that new, empty website. Sounds like it's irrelevant to me, pointless, and poorly thought out. YMMV.
martint235
Dog on a bike
- Location
- Welling
That new empty website is only empty because the originator is canvassing opinion on what people would want from a new club. This is your opportunity to do something positive rather than just pour negativity onto a guy doing his best to provide a resource that is useful. However it's entirely up to you. Get bits of what you want from a variety of places or help to build something that helps you or others.
contadino
Veteran
- Location
- Chesterfield
I didn't say they were in conflict. The OP asked for feedback and I provided mine.
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robgul
Legendary Member
Thank you for the post. That's exactly what Dennis and I are doing - the feedback we have had is 100% positive ... a few people have failed to grasp what it's all about (or failed to read the - limited for reasons described - details).
The Facebook page is NOT an integral part of the TCC ... it was established over a year ago - but there is some parallel thinking if you get beyond the politics and mud-slinging.
The next step is for us to ask the people that have already expressed an interest (hundreds of responses) and others to give us their top few ideas (as brief bullet points), for a small steering group to then assess the responses and refine THE PLAN.
By taking this approach we are, hopefully, going to go forward with what the market (i.e. cyclists with an interest in touring) wants - with no politics or baggage that's seemingly dragging another organisation into oblivion.
Expect to see the ability to provide YOUR IDEAS on the website in the next 3 or 4 days.
Rob
martint235
Dog on a bike
- Location
- Welling
I wish you all the luck. I have expressed an interest and will maintain an open mind although experience tells me that these things do eventually get dragged down by politicking etc. Let's hope that can be avoided.
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robgul
Legendary Member
You should read The Winged Wheel - the story of the first 100 years of CTC - today's scenario with CTC is, as they say, deja vu all over again
Rob
videoman
Guru
- Location
- Staffordshire
I have book marked the site and hope it all takes off as an additional resource for cycle touring.
Good luck for the future.
Good luck for the future.
Hi Rob
Have sent in the form. Glad that someone is doing this and also glad that expressions of interest are pouring in. There is a clear void and it needs to be filled. To be fair to Contadino, he did ask 3 times for clarity and was also puzzled by the empty website before he downloaded on you. There are many folks like him who do not have context and therefore cannot read between the lines. He probably assumed that it was a another "new resource". Could you provide some sort of progress comments on this initiative on this forum (hope Shaun doen't mind) as time goes by so that others would catch on and join as well.
