Trivial things that make you annoyed beyond expectations?

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Electric_Andy

Heavy Metal Fan
Location
Plymouth
I work in a hospital and have heard the no smoking argument for over 10 years. The litter (fag butts) is one thing. The smoke pollution is another. The image of the hospital allowing staff and patients to smoke is also an issue. Some people have challenged patients and been verbally or physically abused. The hospital have no powers to enforce it. They now have a sign saying it's a smoke free site but the popular areas do allow vaping. As many more people vape than smoke these days, it's sort of a good compromise. But the issue of an oxygen tank blowing up outside has never been raised to my knowledge
 

No Ta Doctor

Über Member
People who MUST smoke outside hospitals. Effing addicts.

Well yes, smokers are addicts. The very thought of not being able to smoke, even for relatively short periods, is highly stressful and to actually be prevented from smoking when you need a fag is horrible - you can't think of much else than wanting to smoke, you're irritable/angry and on edge and you make bad decisions because of it. That's addiction for you, it's not a lifestyle choice.

I work in a hospital and have heard the no smoking argument for over 10 years. The litter (fag butts) is one thing. The smoke pollution is another. The image of the hospital allowing staff and patients to smoke is also an issue. Some people have challenged patients and been verbally or physically abused. The hospital have no powers to enforce it. They now have a sign saying it's a smoke free site but the popular areas do allow vaping. As many more people vape than smoke these days, it's sort of a good compromise. But the issue of an oxygen tank blowing up outside has never been raised to my knowledge

As an ex-smoker that gave up due to cancer of the throat and tongue (HPV, not smoking related, get your kids vaccinated - both boys and girls!) I absolutely hate being around smoke. Sometimes because it's close to nauseating, sometimes because it smells so good! I didn't stop immediately on diagnosis - I was far too stressed, I'd just been told I had cancer and needed a fag to try and calm down a bit. I knew I would stop, but it was going to be a little more gradual. The hospital gave me all sorts of nicotine replacements to help, but essentially the fact that I wasn't allowed to smoke pre radiotherapy sessions (5x per week for 6 weeks) or with an hour or so of finishing them (can't remember exact length) meant that I didn't smoke in the mornings (previously a very heavy smoking part of the day - coffee and fags for breakfast) and ended up stretching out when my first cigarette of the day was (e.g. I've made it to 3pm, can I make it to 4?). That cut my intake down from around 30 a day to maybe 5. Not long after that my throat was a complete mess from the radiotherapy (think really bad sunburn) and smoking just wasn't an option or in any way desirable. A couple of weeks later I was eating through a tube up my nose.

So yeah, the relationship between smoking and health in hospitals is far from straightforward, and kicking away peoples crutches - no matter how unhealthy they are - isn't necessarily a good idea.

As for how it's gonne, I'm still smoke (and cancer) free nearly three years later, but there's a coda.

Stopping smoking may well have played a part in my colitis flaring up again - it had been in remission for 15 years. People find it difficult to believe, but there is a clear link between stopping smoking and onset of colitis, and many colitis sufferers have used smoking to control the disease. This is genuine, and the docs will talk to you about it, though for obvious reasons they don't recommend smoking to deal with it. Mine first flared up at an earlier attempt to stop smoking, and was only under control again when I re-started. No treatments for my colitis worked (there were a few I couldn't use due to the previous cancer) and earlier this year I had to have a colectomy to cure it. There was a point there where I definitely considered starting again.

Apologies for the essay, just remember, sometimes something that irritates you is fairly trivial but may mean a lot more to someone else. As an aside, getting overly annoyed by very trivial things is probably why so many drivers seem to want to kill us. Wound up about some meaningless thing they take it out on the cyclist that has impeded their clear run to the red light ahead. We should all just chill out a bit more, life's too short for that shoot.
 

icowden

Guru
Location
Surrey
Well yes, smokers are addicts. The very thought of not being able to smoke, even for relatively short periods, is highly stressful and to actually be prevented from smoking when you need a fag is horrible - you can't think of much else than wanting to smoke, you're irritable/angry and on edge and you make bad decisions because of it. That's addiction for you, it's not a lifestyle choice.
This is it. If you are a Nurse treating an 89 year old with multiple medical issues and who is addicted to smoking, do you adamantly refuse or do you take the view that this is someone on their way out and if it helps calm them for a little bit, facilitate a smoke. The next problem is how do you do that - the usual reason for people standing near the door on a drip, having a cigarette is that these people are not well enough to escort off site.

My personal view is that there should be an accessible smoking area in a place that isn't going to affect staff or other patients and which is available to patients and immediate family only.

Why immediate family? Because if you've just been told that Grandad is on his way out in the next 12 hours, and you are addicted to cigarettes, it's a small kindness during a period of great stress and upset.
 

wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
https://strava.app.link/cIyFoJsfVUb

Cracking rant and one I'm sure we can all sympathise with.

Absolutely - and I'd call that far from trivial having had the paint on the chainstays and seatstays of my otherwise mint road bike utterly ruined by sharp bits of this shite bonded to the tyre with soft tar like shoot to a blanket. I've also lost windscreens to flying chippings courtesy of speeding self-gratification artists coming the other way, and who knows how many additional stone chips my various vehicles have picked up over the years.

Analysis in that piece is spot on - this lazy, half-arsed crap saving bankrupt, mis-managed councils a few and shifting that cost onto the road users they're supposed to be serving in repair costs to their private vehicles..
 

Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
I noticed those yellow 'school children about' warning lights below flashing earlier. Why are they flashing on a Sunday, and maybe even all the time, when the nearby school is obviously closed on Sundays?! Motorists will subliminally see them flashing every time they pass, lessening the impact they're supposed to have on your thought process!!🧐
 

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Accy cyclist

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Why put a bench over a grate? I sat on the one below this evening, but emptied my pockets of door keys, phone etc, in case any of the items in my pocket fell out, ending up down that grate!! 🧐
 

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ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
Why put a bench over a grate? I sat on the one below this evening, but emptied my pockets of door keys, phone etc, in case any of the items in my pocket fell out, ending up down that grate!! 🧐
Why carry keys, phone etc in a pocket from which they can fall out!? (I carry mine in a zipped pocket in my clothing, or zipped into a bag on me or my bike.)
 

icowden

Guru
Location
Surrey
I noticed those yellow 'school children about' warning lights below flashing earlier. Why are they flashing on a Sunday, and maybe even all the time, when the nearby school is obviously closed on Sundays?! Motorists will subliminally see them flashing every time they pass, lessening the impact they're supposed to have on your thought process!!🧐

They can be controlled in different ways. It's possible that the lights are on the fritz but sometimes schools do have events on Saturdays and Sundays - football, school fete etc.

It's not subliminal - it's a direct stimulus to remind you that the legal limit is 20mph and you can be done for exceeding it.
 

Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
They can be controlled in different ways. It's possible that the lights are on the fritz but sometimes schools do have events on Saturdays and Sundays - football, school fete etc.

It's not subliminal - it's a direct stimulus to remind you that the legal limit is 20mph and you can be done for exceeding it.

Are you sure the speed limit is 20mph? I thought it was 20mph when the yellow lights were flashing, then 30mph when they aren't.🤔

Edit....I've just looked at the photos again and seen the sign above the still flashing yellow lights which says 20mph when lights flashing, meaning it'll be 30mph when they aren't. Not that it matters either way as idiots speed on that road doing 40, even 50mph whether the light are flashing or not!!
 
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Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
Why carry keys, phone etc in a pocket from which they can fall out!? (I carry mine in a zipped pocket in my clothing, or zipped into a bag on me or my bike.)

I normally carry my keys ( which are attached to a big furry keyring, so I can feel them in my pocket and not have a panic attack, not being able to find them ) my phone, my hand sanitiser, eye drops etc in the pockets of my jacket or coat. But when it's hot and humid like it was yesterday, I only have my trouser pockets to put stuff in. Just as I was about to sit down I saw the grate, so I took my keys and phone out, which was all I'd taken out with me and put them on the floor in front of that bench. Imagine if my keys or phone had fallen between the gaps on the bench, then into that grate! No way would I have been able to take the grate cover off, so I'd have been locked out of my flat, meaning I would've had to call the housing association who'd send a locksmith out to open my flat door, with me having to pay for the service. I remember must be over 10 years ago when I accidentally dropped £2.50 down a grate from my bum bag while out cycling. I was stronger in those days so I had one of those super strength moments, like when folk lift cars off trapped under them folk, and gripped the metal grill, hauling it out of the ground to retrieve my £2.50, with one woman shouting at me, thinking I was nicking the grate cover to weigh it in as scrap metal! 🤣
 
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Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
Well yes, smokers are addicts. The very thought of not being able to smoke, even for relatively short periods, is highly stressful and to actually be prevented from smoking when you need a fag is horrible - you can't think of much else than wanting to smoke, you're irritable/angry and on edge and you make bad decisions because of it. That's addiction for you, it's not a lifestyle choice.



As an ex-smoker that gave up due to cancer of the throat and tongue (HPV, not smoking related, get your kids vaccinated - both boys and girls!) I absolutely hate being around smoke. Sometimes because it's close to nauseating, sometimes because it smells so good! I didn't stop immediately on diagnosis - I was far too stressed, I'd just been told I had cancer and needed a fag to try and calm down a bit. I knew I would stop, but it was going to be a little more gradual. The hospital gave me all sorts of nicotine replacements to help, but essentially the fact that I wasn't allowed to smoke pre radiotherapy sessions (5x per week for 6 weeks) or with an hour or so of finishing them (can't remember exact length) meant that I didn't smoke in the mornings (previously a very heavy smoking part of the day - coffee and fags for breakfast) and ended up stretching out when my first cigarette of the day was (e.g. I've made it to 3pm, can I make it to 4?). That cut my intake down from around 30 a day to maybe 5. Not long after that my throat was a complete mess from the radiotherapy (think really bad sunburn) and smoking just wasn't an option or in any way desirable. A couple of weeks later I was eating through a tube up my nose.

So yeah, the relationship between smoking and health in hospitals is far from straightforward, and kicking away peoples crutches - no matter how unhealthy they are - isn't necessarily a good idea.

As for how it's gonne, I'm still smoke (and cancer) free nearly three years later, but there's a coda.

Stopping smoking may well have played a part in my colitis flaring up again - it had been in remission for 15 years. People find it difficult to believe, but there is a clear link between stopping smoking and onset of colitis, and many colitis sufferers have used smoking to control the disease. This is genuine, and the docs will talk to you about it, though for obvious reasons they don't recommend smoking to deal with it. Mine first flared up at an earlier attempt to stop smoking, and was only under control again when I re-started. No treatments for my colitis worked (there were a few I couldn't use due to the previous cancer) and earlier this year I had to have a colectomy to cure it. There was a point there where I definitely considered starting again.

Apologies for the essay, just remember, sometimes something that irritates you is fairly trivial but may mean a lot more to someone else. As an aside, getting overly annoyed by very trivial things is probably why so many drivers seem to want to kill us. Wound up about some meaningless thing they take it out on the cyclist that has impeded their clear run to the red light ahead. We should all just chill out a bit more, life's too short for that shoot.

I'm posting from my phone so I can't quote the bit I want to, which is the start of the above's second paragraph. I had 'head and neck cancer' of my tongue 18 years ago. I often think like your's that it was caused by the HPV virus. Can I ask you, did you have surgery, radiotherapy or chemotherapy to get rid of your cancer, or all of them like I did? The operation and the radiotherapy left me with a substantial speech impediment which has slightly improved over the years, but is still a major problem to me. Did any of your treatments affect you badly after your treatment? I think you're the only person I've asked those questions to as the only ones I know of who've had the same cancer as I had are 'celebrities' who obviously I couldn't ask. I read that an actor called is it Val Keamer, who according to what I read has the exact post operation problems as me, as in producing too much saliva and I think it said he was left with a speech impediment, which for an actor is very tough!

Edit..I've just looked it up and it's Val Kilmer not Leamer and sadly he died in April from pneumonia during treatment for his throat cancer which had returned. 🙄
 
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