Two sided SPDs less injurious than dual sided?

[fossyant]

I'll be using MTB SPD's on my next road bike. I have Look Delta on my two vintage bikes, but just for walking to the garage, or putting your feet down, the convenience of being able to walk is the main thing. I've even done a 130 mile hilly sportive using SPD's so there is no issue with foot pain with half decent shoes. I am down to just two pairs of road shoes these days - six pairs of SPD's.

 

[matticus]

And in an amazing co-incidence, the place I went to (to buy a spare inner tube) was also the home of a retired nurse, who very kindly patched me up.

Well done. I had to "crash" hundreds of times before that happened.

 

[PaulSB]

I've been riding double-sided SPDs on road bikes for 25+ years. It's a damn sight easier and more practical than other systems.

I'm a touch confused now. At first I thought the OP is/was slipping off the pedals but it now seems it's when he/she is walking around. Changing pedals won't fix that, more care will.

As for the 6" gash, I'm glad you're OK and got help, though I'd encourage you to take the view this was an off and you were injured. Again any pedal could do this.

 

[Drago]

I have a rabid dislike of hybrid pedals. Use flats or use spuds, but never the twain should meet.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

I'm wondering about moving to pedals with SPDs on both side - I'm hardly ever on the flats. Are they less likely to result in injuries?

Yes because if set properly your feet remain clipped in, avoiding loose feet and legs coming into contact with the bike.

 

[scotsbikester]

I've got a pair of M324s on their way, and I'll see how I get on with those (they were NOS of ebay, so good price).

But other options are the Click'R T421s

Or maybe double side SPDs, like M520s combined with the flat adaptor thingy. Has anybody tried that? It seems to need tools to fit it. I was hoping it might go in the same way that a cleat goes in, tool-less. On the positive side, from the brief spin he gives the pedal in that video, it looks like it always falls flat side down. That would make sense, weight wise. So though it's not what some might want, at least it's consistent. Lack of reflectors on M520s could be an issue, I aim to be 100% compliant, lighting wise.

 

[Mike_P]

I've got a pair of M324s on their way, and I'll see how I get on with those (they were NOS of ebay, so good price).

But other options are the Click'R T421s

Or maybe double side SPDs, like M520s combined with the flat adaptor thingy. Has anybody tried that? It seems to need tools to fit it. I was hoping it might go in the same way that a cleat goes in, tool-less. On the positive side, from the brief spin he gives the pedal in that video, it looks like it always falls flat side down. That would make sense, weight wise. So though it's not what some might want, at least it's consistent. Lack of reflectors on M520s could be an issue, I aim to be 100% compliant, lighting wise.

Shimano make clip on reflectors for SPDs
SM-PD22 Pedal Tops with Reflectors

Think I have some somewhere but never used them. They did use to make dual sided SPDs set in a plastic cage with reflectors but those no longer appear to be available.

 

[scotsbikester]

Well done. I had to "crash" hundreds of times before that happened.

I had got to the top of a very steep drive. But with my super low gear I can usually get up anything. I think I was feeling rather pleased with myself, misjudged the slope of the parking area at the top, and keeled over to the left. I've come off the bike three times, and every one of them has been at very very low speed, or zero.

Shimano make clip on reflectors for SPDs
SM-PD22 Pedal Tops with Reflectors

Think I have some somewhere but never used them. They did use to make dual sided SPDs set in a plastic cage with reflectors but those no longer appear to be available.

Thanks. Given how little attention law enforcement and cyclists gives to bicycle lighting regs, it may seem I'm wasting my time bothering. Though there have been a few occasions when, as a driver, the up/down motion of the reflectors has caught my eye. The safety benefits are marginal, I expect, but every 1% extra safety adds on to all the other 1%s.

 

[Exlaser2]

I have a rabid dislike of hybrid pedals. Use flats or use spuds, but never the twain should meet.

Spot on . My road bikes all have spd these days ( after years of using Time mtb pedals then Speedplay frog mtb pedals ) but my hybrid bike just has flats and never the two should meet .😀

 

[JonBuoy]

Or maybe double side SPDs, like M520s combined with the flat adaptor thingy. Has anybody tried that? It seems to need tools to fit it. I was hoping it might go in the same way that a cleat goes in, tool-less. On the positive side, from the brief spin he gives the pedal in that video, it looks like it always falls flat side down. That would make sense, weight wise. So though it's not what some might want, at least it's consistent. Lack of reflectors on M520s could be an issue, I aim to be 100% compliant, lighting wise.

I have done many tens of thousands of miles using that arrangement. It doesn't need tools to attach it - you just clip it into one side of the M520. NB I use it for the reflectors - the 'flat' pedal is usable but fairly rubbish.

 

[Mike_P]

Pedal reflectors are only required by uk law between sun set and sun rise.

 

[andrew_s]

I've been using the PD-T8000 pedals, and their PD-T780 predecessors, for many years without any shin injuries at all. I screwed the
T8000 studs further in so they only protrude by ~ 1.5 mm.

I use them because of their proper reflectors.

The the flat adaptor thingy isn't as good as it interferes with clipping in to the pedals, whilst the PD-T8000 is weighted to hang vertically with the clip side rearwards, which makes clipping in easy enough that I can usually get clipped in going straight up a 15-20% hill (i.e. within about half a pedal revolution).
The adapters are also best used as a semi-permanent fixture, as the "cleat" bit is nylon rather than steel, and doesn't stand up to frequent removal/refitting.

 

[Jameshow]

I have a rabid dislike of hybrid pedals. Use flats or use spuds, but never the twain should meet.

I think they have a use.
I once had a cleat come loose on tour and the hybrid pedal saved the day.

 

[Drago]

The 7 P's would have prevented a cleat coming loose in the first instance.

 

[matticus]

I think they have a use.
I once had a cleat come loose on tour and the hybrid pedal saved the day.

Clearly The Drago is correct, but I too have had this happen on tour (Alsace region? I'd ridden from Dunkirk.), to make you feel better.
On standard M520s, nearly put a spanner in the works; but a local mechanic spotted a "spare" cleat-bolt in the side of the pedal - genius!!!