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Tyres

Discussion in 'Beginners' started by slow Al, 15 Sep 2007.

  1. slow Al

    slow Al Senior Member

    Whats the best winter wet tyre for my winter road bike ?
     
  2. 515mm

    515mm Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Carmarthenshire
    Been using 25mm continental ultra gatorskins on my commuting road bike in all weathers, including three torrential downpours. I only suffered one 'moment' - which was my fault for trying to go negotiate a roundabout in excess of 20mph. I didn't come off, just clenched the old chocolate starfish hard as the rear wheel lost grip briefly! My route includes a smooth tarmac cycle path that runs through a forest for 4 miles with all kinds of slippery cr*p on it. No problems here either. I have suffered no p*nct*res in 700+miles. Contis feel pretty fast but I would go for the folding version if you have the means. The wire beads on mine were a b*gger to get on my Fulcrum 7 rims.

    Hope this helps
     
  3. slow Al

    slow Al Senior Member

    Many thanks, I have taken your advice and ordered the folding version. Hopefully no accidents and broken shoulder this winter

    Cheers,

    Slow Al
     
  4. 515mm

    515mm Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Carmarthenshire
    Oooh! - I sincerely hope not. Ouch! ;)

    My pleasure by the way and good luck......
     
  5. Lefire

    Lefire New Member

    Location:
    Colchester
    So what are winter tyres ?

    I have a road bike and they still have the same tyres on them as when I bought it last year. Had a few hairy moments during last winter (and came off a couple of times)

    Do winter tyres have more grip or is there something else more clever ?
    Since falling off I have just reduced the pressure I put in the tyres.
     
  6. Tim Bennet.

    Tim Bennet. Entirely Average Member

    Location:
    S of Kendal
    Winter tyres on a road bike is an interesting topic. Firstly 'winter' is such a weird concept these days so we'll include all times when it's not dry and sunny!

    Requirements:

    1. Good grip in the wet: For this you need a completely slick, soft compound tyre. Tyre tread only makes grip worse as it reduces the rubber contact area with the tarmac. Knobbly mtb tyres are worst for this where the chunky knobbles also distort under load, although their bigger size compensates to a degree.

    2. Toughness and puncture resistance. In winter there is more crap on the road and fixing punctures is even less pleasant. Kevlar belting and more rubber (= heavier) do help, but again tread pattern can make matters worse. (traps flints and bits of glass in the part of the tyre that is thinnest). Kevlar inserts can also be added to ordinary tyres. Also if you do puncture, you want a tyre that allows you to change the inner easily. Some tyre / rim combinations are a pig in summer. With frozen fingers they are even worse. This for me eliminates some people's 'favourite' winter tyres.

    3. Grip on mud, shoot and leaves: If your rural commute (or cycle path) is so crappy to be almost 'off road' in character, then an off road tyre might be good. But for a 'knobbly tyre' to work, the surface has to be soft enough for the tread to 'dig in'. This is not the situation with a layer of leaves or muddy run-off on tarmac. Compromise (dual purpose) tyres will quickly choke up with mud and becoming good for nothing.

    4. Wet man hole covers and painted areas: Again, the softer the compound the better, but realistically avoid these if possible or treat with care.

    5. Ice: Nothing will help except tungsten studded tyres (they are available). When a ground frost is possible, proceed with caution and stick to gritted roads.

    6. Snow: If the snow is soft enough for a knobbly tyre to make an impression, then snow riding can be fun. But in towns, other traffic will quickly 'roll' the snow down to white ice and the fun is over.

    So I use Mich Pro Race 25c's on my winter training / audax bike and Panaracer Pasellas 32c's on my commute / touring bike. And in summer - I use exactly the same.
     
  7. Lefire

    Lefire New Member

    Location:
    Colchester
    cheers Tim.

    I supose the best defence against falling off / punctures in the winter is to get the turbo up and ready.
    There is an article in this months C+ on tyres but haven't got round to reading it yet.

    I like the sound of having kevlar on my bike. At least the tyres wont get blown out when I am shot at by the kids on the estate....
     
  8. brady37

    brady37 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    n/ireland
    hi anyone ever had conti gp 4000 tyres for road bike if so are they recommended
     
  9. on the road

    on the road Über Member

    I don't know about winter tyres, but I use GP4000 all year round.
     
  10. HJ

    HJ Cycling in Scotland

    Location:
    Auld Reekie
    I don't get this fuss about having different tyres for different seasons, I just ride on Conti GatorSkins year round. The only reason I can thing of for changing tyres in winter would be to use a studded tyre, but then where I live the roads a cleared of snow in the winter...