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Unfair costs in car repairs

Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by Reiver, 19 May 2017.

  1. Reiver

    Reiver Whistling down the hills, tearing up the climbs

    Location:
    Middle Marches
    I was just getting my van ready for its MOT and I noticed a broken spring on the brake load compensation valve, the lever on the valve was working fine just the spring that operates it was broken. Asked at local motor factors for a new spring and told to it would be a main dealer part. Main dealer said spring not sold separately so would need a whole new unit at 140 + vat.

    So for a laugh I asked how much they charge to fit the unit, was told if no complications it would be 90 + vat. giving a total of £276. (but there will certainly be complications, 5 brake pipes held in alloy body with steel unions, at leat two will snap so lets assume full cost in region of £350 - £400?)

    As it turns out I found someone on ebay doing the spring for £22 (still a rip off at that) but fairly easy to fit.

    But what an unnecessary expense for anyone going to a garage and having a simple straight forward fix turned into a major repair.


    rant over ^_^
     
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  2. Moodyman

    Moodyman Veteran

    Yes, I've had that before. Only a small part was needed for an otherwise perfect suspension system. But nobody sold it and the main dealer only sold the the complete set and then...only if you had it fitted by them.

    In the end I bought the required part from the scrapyard and paid a back street garage £15 to fit.
     
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  3. gbb

    gbb Guru

    Location:
    Peterborough
    Tyre Pressure Monitoring System (Tpms on your car) valves are apparently notoriously poor, made from aluminium and prone to corrosion / dirt.

    Just had two new tyres fitted....but you valves are leaking they said (quite rightly...I knew I had a minor problem but assumed it was a slow puncture).
    Ok, how much.....
    If they had the right kit...maybe £10 a wheel.
    New valves if available were more.
    But Vauxhall won't just sell the valve you have to have the sensor as well.....

    It'd have meant a circa £200 bill if I interpreted their coats right....it might have been £140 ish at best.

    Can you put normal valves on for now I asked.
    Oh yes....but your TPMS will alarm and it'll be an automatic MOT fail.

    Ebay, new valves, £7.50 each.
    I'll get my SIL to whip the tyres off sometime in the future and refit the TPMS sensors.

    Ridiculous....but that's modern cars.
     
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  4. rugby bloke

    rugby bloke Über Member

    Location:
    Northamptonshire
    Too many to mention for our Mercedes R Class when it used to go to the main dealer. Now it goes to a local garage it is suddenly a lot cheaper ... funny that !
     
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  5. Its what the market will support. As with solicitors, builders, boob jobs etc, people moan about the cost of jobs that most of them couldn't do themselves. Indeed, a top flight tech will have trained as long as a solicitor who charges £300 an hour, so in that regard their expertise is good value.

    My Dad is an engineer, taught me how spanners work from an early age, and because I have the skills I've never had to trouble myself to ask a garage how much a job costs. I certainly wouldn't want to do it for a living for what they get paid though.
     
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  6. meta lon

    meta lon Veteran

    Location:
    pboro
    Can't you get a spring at a breakers or get one made?

    The compensater on my old Ducato siezed..I managed to free it off..but that would have been a dealer only big bill as it needed setting...
     
  7. mjr

    mjr Wanting to Keep My EU Citizenship

    It's not only cars. One of the reasons I'm changing my main bike from a Shimano Nexus hub gear to a Sturmey Archer is that Shimano will only sell complete new internals while SA still sell all the bits if you want them. That and parts availability for the Nexus consumables (bearings and so on) seems relatively slow, with little stock held by anyone in the UK so it's often a wait for things to come from Germany or Singapore (so far).
     
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  8. Profpointy

    Profpointy Guru

    A friend scrapped a car because the wiper motor bust. Part was only slightly costly at 50 quid or whatever but you had to take half the car apart to get at it which would have been £1500. French car needless to say
     
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  9. Reiver

    Reiver Whistling down the hills, tearing up the climbs

    Location:
    Middle Marches
    I bought the one of ebay, nice stainless steel jobby, guaranteed for life - lol. (my local scrappie didn't have one) got thru MOT without advisories, which was better than last year, very unfairly got an advisory for rusty brake pipe, it was more stuck on mud than rust.
     
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  10. It is satisfying to DIY it, do a decent job, and save some pennies. Better for the environment too.
     
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  11. screenman

    screenman Legendary Member

    A small main dealer I was at today cost around £50,000 a month to open up, profit is something they hope for and seldom get. It is the manufacturer that sets what a dealer has to fit and supply. For example Audi dealer buy a car into sales stock wnatinga new screen genuine Audi £450 plus £100 fitting, non genuine £200 fitted, they have to go genuine, Audi rules.

    Timber now that is pricey, where do they think money comes from, it does certainly not grow on tree's.
     
  12. johnnyb47

    johnnyb47 Senior Member

    Location:
    Wales
    I've just paid out £450 to have a belt tensioner replaced. The 2 bolts attaching it thread from the back into it and involved stripping half the engine components out to get to them. If the bolts where threaded in from the front it would of only been about 30 minutes works as opposed the 4 hours. I hate cars sometimes grrrrr
     
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  13. twentysix by twentyfive

    twentysix by twentyfive Clinging on tightly

    Location:
    Over the Hill
    Up to £400 for a 50p broken spring sounds about right for the rip off non repair motor trade culture. Glad you outflanked them @Reiver - well done :thumbsup:
     
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  14. twentysix by twentyfive

    twentysix by twentyfive Clinging on tightly

    Location:
    Over the Hill
    FTFY
     
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  15. HertzvanRental

    HertzvanRental Über Member

    I have a Peugeot 308. Late last year, I had the battery replaced. This caused the screen to show that the abs had been compromised. Went to 2 local garages, recommended, for diagnostic checks and resetting. They replaced this and that but still I had the warning re abs! Went to local Peugeot dealer. In all, it cost me North of £200.00 to be told that a fuse had blown!!
     
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