Using a mobile phone when driving is okay...

[Joe24]

£1,000 fine and 80 hours community service working with those injured in RTAs. A 3 month ban and retake driving test when ban expires would seem fair. He would only have 10 weeks if getting taxis, cycling or walking to and from work or his wife could drive him?

That sounds good.
Making him get taxis, busses and cycle would be good aswell.
He needs his licence to get machinary from where its stored to his work though, so it would be hard for him to do this when he hasnt got his licence

 

[Crankarm]

They're divorced and don't speak anymore.

Ooops. Did she divorce him I wonder for unreasonable and objectionable behaviour such as him being a total wally and a danger when they were in the car together him driving and he using his mobile phone the whole time . No wonder she only gives him limited access to his kids, he seems to be a total dickhead. Anyway if the mother has custady of the kids she is more than likely paying for them not him. Court shouldn't just accept the kids would be in hardship if they banned him. Seems he's just using his kids to get off automatic disqualification. Low life scum like him will try anything to avoid punishment.

Whatever, he can walk or crawl on his belly for all I care just as long as he's not driving for a while. Also if he owns his car it should be crushed and his phone . Sounds fair to me.

 

[Night Train]

He should suffer the legal fate for his crime or not be charged in the first place.

It was his choice to use the phone. He could have stopped driving to make/take the call for work or to his kids. Better that then to cause injury or death to others or himself.

Maybe a good deterant would be to crush the car with the phone and user in it?

 

[snorri]

He needs his licence to get machinary from where its stored to his work though, so it would be hard for him to do this when he hasnt got his licence

My heart bleeds
Joe24, we can all make a mistake and get caught out, but anytime it has happened to me I am extra careful to ensure I do not slip up in a similar manner again.
This guy clearly had a fairly casual attitude towards the safety of others on the road, and a casual attitude towards his employment when he behaved in a manner that he knew could prejudice his employment and inconvenience his employer.
Why you should be at all sympathetic beggars belief.

 

[boydj]

My heart bleeds
Joe24, we can all make a mistake and get caught out, but anytime it has happened to me I am extra careful to ensure I do not slip up in a similar manner again.
This guy clearly had a fairly casual attitude towards the safety of others on the road, and a casual attitude towards his employment when he behaved in a manner that he knew could prejudice his employment and inconvenience his employer.
Why you should be at all sympathetic beggars belief.

+1

You might sympathise when taking a call from his kids - but how would he have known who was calling? And then making a call for somebody who was in the car beside him? This guy is obviously totally cynical about observance of the law, or seriously stupid, as is the judge who has put a dangerous driver back out on the roads.

 

[hackbike 666]

Sorry about my views on mobile phones joe but obviously we are from different eras where you see mobile phones as the greatest invention since sliced bread and I see sliced bread as the greatest invention since the year dot.

Why you should be at all sympathetic beggars belief.

I think it's the losing his job thingy but I do wonder how many chances does this guy need while he continually takes the piss.Obviously people are like this because they coulsn't give a toss about others.

 

[Rhythm Thief]

The "I need my licence for my job" excuse annoys me - if your licence is that valuable, then don't take risks with it.

Yes, absolutely. I need my licence for my job, but I don't expect to be able to offer that as an excuse for any behaviour I choose to try and get away with.

 

[hackbike 666]

Just finished my commute and apart from making a ped jump out of his skin as he stepped out from the pavement without looking.I only made a slight noise but he must have been asleep.He said sorry but I was really sorry for making him jump like that.I didnt even blow the horn.

 

[hackbike 666]

Mobile phone user parked on the shaded area down the bottom of the Bow Flyover creating a pinch point.Awful parking.I actually looked in his car to see if he was ok because the way he was parked and where he was parked.

 

[dellzeqq]

send him an e-mail via

enquiries@norwich.crowncourt.gsi.gov.uk

Judge Richards.

I cycle around London and the southeast of England. My progress isn't made any safer by drivers chatting away on their mobile phones. That more and more drivers are ignoring the law is, in part, due to the indulgence of judges and magistrates. Excusing crime because punishment would inconvenience the criminal is an abdication of responsibility.

Shape up.

Simon Legg

 

[thomas]

send him an e-mail via

enquiries@norwich.crowncourt.gsi.gov.uk

Ohh, sent a quick email too!

 

[Clive Atton]

Send the bastard an email directly telling him what you think, I have.

karl@avagomx.co.uk

 

[Sh4rkyBloke]

Alright chum, keep calm.
He doesnt just need his licence to get to and from work, but to carry out maintence on the track at his work, because the machinary is kept offsite.

So?

He should be fined not made to lose his job, but fined heavily, very heavily.

Yes. I'm sure that's the solution for a man who's so thick that he's been caught and fined for doing the same thing 3 times in 5 months. Perhaps he's approach the courts saying he doesn't earn enough to pay this whopping great fine... should we then pity him and get him a payrise to cover the extra costs?

Of course theres the time when the lorry driver got done for speeding and knowing he was going to lose his licence and lose his job, commited suicide. The driver didnt have another job, and to get another job would of been hard so he hung himself.

I'm sure this wasn't the only reason for his suicide. The man obviously needed help.

Whats the point there? You can see how hard it is to get another job, so why take the guys job away.

The point is that it's his responsibility to stay within the law. He knew the risks and the outcome if he was caught. Simple, really.

Your also not looking at the bigger picture, if he doesnt have a job, he wouldnt be paying tax would he? Or as much tax?

Oh right. It's okay if he kills someone as long as he pays his taxes and has a job to go to. Are you on this planet, Joe?

 

[Crankarm]

Ohh, sent a quick email too!

Nice one .

 

[sw3008]

Just thought I'd put this into context.

According to the law, if you have received a ban for "totting up" your points, you are allowed to claim "excessive hardship".

This means that you would put either yourself, your family, your work or some other party to severe hardship due to the ban.

It takes quite a lot of persuading to convince a Judge or Magistrate that this is the case & it's not something that is done lightly. He may have dependants who will not be able to get to hospital appointments without him or some similar issue.

Once you have used this, you will not get another chance to claim excessive hardship again.

If you are caught doing anthing wrong on the road again & you earn points, you will be banned no matter how hard it is for you.

Also, any financial penalty you've been given, will still stand, so he does pay the fines.

The man is obviously a bit stupid doing it, but he's only got the one chance & it's game over.