Van Rysel E bike - Trigger Pulled !

[kingrollo]

First ebike for me - first time with SRAM as well. Ideally didn't want 1x12 - but this seemed to tick a lot boxes for £2k

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/p/elect...sUgTOmBmjjX3THEefiPxwymryixZUDHEqlWAwYgAQoPrE

 

[N0bodyOfTheGoat]

Nice!

That model was ~£2300 when I was looking at the Van Rysel ebikes in Jan/Feb, I was about to pull trigger on the 105 2x11 cabled for ~£1900 when I spotted the GT eGrade Bolts at PaulsCycles and RMCycles.

I was worried when looking at this 1x12, that the lowest gear was 42/44, while my Bolt's is 30/34. But I'm using the 30T ring far less than I expected to, because it's usually fine simply selecting turbo that I've set to max 250W.
It actually made me wonder if the 1x trend began when ebikes became more mainstream.

 

[kingrollo]

Nice!

That model was ~£2300 when I was looking at the Van Rysel ebikes in Jan/Feb, I was about to pull trigger on the 105 2x11 cabled for ~£1900 when I spotted the GT eGrade Bolts at PaulsCycles and RMCycles.

I was worried when looking at this 1x12, that the lowest gear was 42/44, while my Bolt's is 30/34. But I'm using the 30T ring far less than I expected to, because it's usually fine simply selecting turbo that I've set to max 250W.
It actually made me wonder if the 1x trend began when ebikes became more mainstream.

I don't fully understand 1x - but it's my first e bike after a heart attack in June .

Worse case scenario - I have a brand spanking 105 di2 gruppo installed on my dolan - which I can swap over .

Obviously it's not quite the bargain you had with GT - but it's the cheapest reasonable ebike I could find .

 

[T4tomo]

It actually made me wonder if the 1x trend began when ebikes became more mainstream.

Try mountain biking when their front derailleurs kept clogging with mud

 

[Stul]

..great looking bike, I am sure you will love it!!...had my e bike for 5 years and really like it. If it blew up tomorrow, it is the one thing I would just go out and buy another one. Did ttry going back to a "manual" briefly last last year but gave up. 12 miles was about my limit on a non powered bike, but regularly do 30+ miles now...even after a long Winter lay-off!!

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

..great looking bike, I am sure you will love it!!...had my e bike for 5 years and really like it. If it blew up tomorrow, it is the one thing I would just go out and buy another one. Did ttry going back to a "manual" briefly last last year but gave up. 12 miles was about my limit on a non powered bike, but regularly do 30+ miles now...even after a long Winter lay-off!!

Yup
I did try hiring a normal bike on holiday last year and I was pleased about how well I rode

rode nearly as far as my normal ride on my ebike without any problems

but I know that the extra range after a 3 week layoff in winter due to weather would mean that I can go to the places that make it worth while directly out of the door

which makes me more likely to go out

 

[N0bodyOfTheGoat]

I don't want to teach you to suck eggs, but in the Mahle app "MySmartBike" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mahle.sbs&hl=en_GB you can choose three different assist presets or customise the the motor output for the three levels (white on iWOC button on toptube is no assist)...
Level 1 is a % of 100W max
Level 2 is a % of 175W max
Level 3 is a % of 250W max

Personally, when ok (but with long covid fitness/stamina issues) I usually use 75/80/100% respectively, when I'm not feeling so good (long covid worse or had a recent infection) I'm much more likely to use approx 100/85/100% respectively.

There's a few other useful tweaks on the app, such as I turned off the light circuit as my Bolt didn't come with integrated lights, plus I set assist to start in level 1 rather than last mode used.

There's an app you can use like recording a ride on your mobile on the Strava app, with a few extras like +/- buttons for assist level. Maybe it was my old Xiaomi Mi A2 mobile from '19, but I tried it once with my turbo mobile holder for a short outdoor test, the battery ran down super quick! Ever since I've just used my Lezyne Super Pro gps computer or my ~£40 Xioami 5 Lite smartwatch which has an excellent gps lock , bothh of which don't have any ebike pairing.

Mahle do a Pulsar One gps computer, but I can't justify ~£90 for another gps computer that gives a few functions like +/- assist buttons, with lots of other modern gps computer features missing.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Nice to have more specific data about how the different assist levels work

most just say "x is higher than y"

our Carrera crosscity manual comes with a chart that showed exactly how it works in each mode

which is nice to see
but my Bosch doesn;t seem to think you need that sort of thing!

 

[Dadam]

Nice bike! The X35+ is getting long in the tooth now but against that it's a proven platform. I've no data but it seems to be quite reliable generally. Certainly my Gain is getting on 3 years now and has given little or no trouble. The only issue I can remember was either the app or the bike's controller losing the odometer data, i.e. the total distance travelled. I don't know if that data was fully reset in the bike itself or it's still there, but in the end it didn't affect the bike's performance in any way so I never did anything about it.

 

[Dadam]

but my Bosch doesn;t seem to think you need that sort of thing!

Pretty sure I remember seeing something on the Bosch website telling you the levels of the different modes.

 

[kingrollo]

Done a few rides now. And I like it. The sram 1x is a real surprise - thought it would feel a bit low end coming from ultegra + 105 di2 - but not a bit - it shifts like a dream.

The downside is the supplied decathlon app - I really think they would have been better off not bothering rather than this error strewn beta testa pile of junk. The supplied BC900 computer is little better - and the quick start user guide is sparse in the extreme. I spent a lot of time of ribble forums as they use the same motor - a steeper learning curve than I thought .

V available ebikes it seems well worth £2k - granted it's not a powerful motor - but it takes the edge of my heart rate which gives me confidence to ride.

The iwoc controller is interesting - it seems you have cycle through 0 - 1 2 3 levels. Going up the levels not a problem - but going into 0 (off) from 3 to get to level 1 - you suddenly feel the weight of the bike and level 1 can't kick in quick enough.

 

[N0bodyOfTheGoat]

Done a few rides now. And I like it. The sram 1x is a real surprise - thought it would feel a bit low end coming from ultegra + 105 di2 - but not a bit - it shifts like a dream.

The downside is the supplied decathlon app - I really think they would have been better off not bothering rather than this error strewn beta testa pile of junk. The supplied BC900 computer is little better - and the quick start user guide is sparse in the extreme. I spent a lot of time of ribble forums as they use the same motor - a steeper learning curve than I thought .

V available ebikes it seems well worth £2k - granted it's not a powerful motor - but it takes the edge of my heart rate which gives me confidence to ride.

The iwoc controller is interesting - it seems you have cycle through 0 - 1 2 3 levels. Going up the levels not a problem - but going into 0 (off) from 3 to get to level 1 - you suddenly feel the weight of the bike and level 1 can't kick in quick enough.

Does the official Mahle MySmartBike app I linked to not funtion with the Van Rysel?

The iWOC assist level rotation is a bit annoying, pretty sure the Mahle Pulsar One gps computer allows level changes up or down, but I'm not paying ~£90 for one for a single feature at a cost of losing plenty of other features.

 

[kingrollo]

Does the official Mahle MySmartBike app I linked to not funtion with the Van Rysel?

The iWOC assist level rotation is a bit annoying, pretty sure the Mahle Pulsar One gps computer allows level changes up or down, but I'm not paying ~£90 for one for a single feature at a cost of losing plenty of other features.

Yes I haven't got into tweaking via the my smart bike app yet.

 

[Jenkins]

If you have a Garmin Edge Explore 2, you can add Ebike data fields and control the assistance level from there - and you can go down a level without cycling though the others.

 

[Dadam]

If you have a Garmin Edge Explore 2, you can add Ebike data fields and control the assistance level from there - and you can go down a level without cycling though the others.

Also the other touch screen Garmins I believe, such as the 840 and above.