video: Bike Beats It All & When Pavements are Handy

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summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
You could see the shared use sign at one point when he was cycling on the pavement (at about 2.46 - just as he is crossing the side road).
 

LOGAN 5

New Member
Which one? I didn't attempt to pass either of them until I was sure that I'd have safe space until I was past it.

17 secs into the vid you try to undertake the lorry whilst overtaking a car on the lane next to you effectively squeezing yourself between the two. Had the lorry/car moved over a little you'd have had nowhere to go. You didn't complete the undertake as you reached the cab end of the lorry and appeared to run out of space and slowed significantly then had to have another go at it a few seconds later.

Those cars would have no idea you were filtering between lanes as you'd be invisible amongst all those headlights. Drivers frequently jump lanes at that speed withoug indicating and you were going too fast to be safe.

Do you do that route in the rain at that speed, bit scary.

We're always reading on here about undertaking lorries and here you are doing it on a vid. Not impressive or defensible. Isn't there a safer commute you can do to avoid that dual carriageway?
 

Norm

Guest
Tynan said:
do you check behind you when moving from one filter lane to the other? I'm guessing not if the cam is on your head, perhaps you can hear a scooter but surely not another cyclist?

Lonon is cycle heavy but chopping beteeen the filter lines without checking someone else aon;t already bombing along it is asking for an embarassing bike/bike prang

Yup. The camera can't follow eye movements.
You cut from the middle to the left about 38 seconds in, and then back out again 7 or 8 seconds later. I don't see that you could have checked for people already filtering in those lanes if that camera is helmet mounted.
 

Sheffield_Tiger

Legendary Member
To be honest my first comment was going to be about the lorry, looked scary to me BUT sometimes perspectives look quite different on a cam than IRL
 

LOGAN 5

New Member
gaz said:
This is what happens when you upload videos on youtube! people will critise your riding.

True, but there again some individuals may not realise that their riding style and decision making is potentially unsafe and is putting them at risk. At least a vid allows a critique constructive or otherwise from which something can be learned. We're all on part of the great learning curve afterall.
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
I must say that filtering in moving traffic between a car and a lorry like you did twice in the first bit there seriously exceeds my risk threshold. I think you're far too confident about being able to avoid a problem in this sort of situation.
 

Norm

Guest
There weren't any motorbikes around. I'd hear them and they couldn't make those gaps at any speed if they were silent. And I knew that there weren't any cycles there.

If you look towards the end of the clip you'll see that I look behind when I need to.
Yes, no, maybe, more straw men, whatever.

You said that you look when changing lanes and, on those two occasions, it doesn't appear that you did. That's all.
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
Norm said:
Yes, no, maybe, more straw men, whatever.

You said that you look when changing lanes and, on those two occasions, it doesn't appear that you did. That's all.

I'm with Norm - hearing isn't good enough and I would look.
 

Norm

Guest
Wikipedia]A [B]straw man[/B] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_argument said:
argument[/URL] is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent"][/URL] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man#cite_note-book-0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man#cite_note-files-1 Presenting and refuting a weakened form of an opponent's argument can be a part[/I'] of a valid argument.

I'm not sure how else to categorise your "There weren't any motorbikes around".

Given that you hadn't done a lifesaver for 30 seconds before that manoeuvre, I'd consider you to have been lucky not to have someone behind you.

I would suggest more frequent shoulder checks when changing lanes, for the benefit of the two wheelers who share the road with you.

Take the advice, ignore it, either way, your riding habits will have no direct consequence on me.
 

Norm

Guest
Thanks for your advice.
No prob, sir. It was well-intentioned.

I've had a long hard look at the riding in my own videos (no, I'm not brave enough to post one yet) and seen many issues from the perspective of my comfy chair that I didn't notice when "on the ground".

It's a particular concern of mine as I've had enough very close calls with other two wheelers changing from lane 1.5 to lane 2.5 without looking because they know there's nothing behind.
 

thomas

the tank engine
Location
Woking/Norwich
Sheffield_Tiger said:
To be honest my first comment was going to be about the lorry, looked scary to me BUT sometimes perspectives look quite different on a cam than IRL


When I watched it the two things that I would do different would of been with the small lorry, I wouldn't of wanted to have been as close while it was moving so might have been a bit more patient. Secondly, I'd of probably checked behind me a bit more....but that's just me.
 

jig-sore

Formerly the anorak
Location
Rugby
so what bollocks excuse are you gonna come up with for cycling into oncoming traffic in the dark ?

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you seem to pass too close to the cars for me. i wonder what you would say if they passed you that close ??

not impressed :reading:
 
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