Visibility ... where do you draw the line?!

Discussion in 'Commuting' started by XmisterIS, 11 May 2010.

  1. XmisterIS

    XmisterIS Purveyor of fine nonsense

    The other day I riding along and I saw a guy in broad daylight, clad from head to toe in high-viz, three ultra-bright headlights and two flashing ultra-bright helmet lights!

    He looked a bit like a big luminous yellow christmas tree ... my first thought was, "I've heard of high-viz, but you are something else!" I'm also thinking that too much high viz turns you from being something to avoid to being something for some (idiotic) drivers to target ...

    So where do you personally draw the line at being high-viz? For me it's a white t-shirt during the day (apparently the eye is drawn to large blocks of white - hence why they say motorbike riders should go for white helmets) and a pair of front and rear super-bright LED lights which go on at night. I think that's adequate!
  2. at your own unique comfort zone.

    I suspect the xmas tree chap has reason to wear what he wears in spite comments and weird looks from others...he doesn't care, he needs to feel safe and that is his way (and choice) of doing so.

    each to their own.
  3. gaz

    gaz Cycle Camera TV

    South Croydon
    During the day, nothing. But I'm often sporting high colored or funny jerseys.
    At night. 3 lights rear, two front and a hump backpack cover!
  4. swee'pea99

    swee'pea99 Legendary Member

    Let's face it, you noticed him!
  5. McWobble

    McWobble Euthermic

    Minkowski Space
    Something brightly coloured during the day such as a white t-shirt or red jersey (not necessarily hi-viz) and two good rear lights plus something that chucks out a good 200 lumens at the front.

    Trouble is, I could set myself on fire and cycle down the street whilst juggling dolphins and there would still be motorists who didn't see me... All the lights and hi-viz in the world aren't of any use if people just don't bother to look.
  6. Exactly - you saw him. Which presumably is what the rider was aiming to achieve. Can't fault that! :ohmy:

    [swee'pea - you got in before me, but I agree with everything you said!]
  7. skrx

    skrx Active Member

    It also depends what the night-time lighting is. The street lights are so bright in central/inner London that I wouldn't notice if my front light failed until I got home, that's certainly not the case in the countryside!

    I have lights and (usually) reflective trouser clips.
  8. numbnuts

    numbnuts Legendary Member

    North Baddesley
    the only trouble with wearing all that, some prat who doesn't ride a bike with make it compulsory :ohmy:
  9. cyberknight

    cyberknight Wibble

    Land of confusion

    Nothing light wise but i try to have a light colored top on.

    helmet has a smiley face hi viz sticker as well, not very cool but sure stands out.
    Hi viz jacket/sam browne belt dependant on weather
    wrist slaps.
    Panniers have reflective trim.
    2 front lights+ 200 lumen deal extreme torch for unlit roads
    4 rear flashers including a 1/2 watt smart
  10. GrumpyGregry

    GrumpyGregry Here for rides.

    Daytime - one rear light on flashing - front light on flashing
    Nighttime - three rears two steady one flash - three front two steady on flash

    Never ever wear day-glo as I don't work on the railways or on a building site.

  11. This is a strange attitude. In the first place, it smacks of snobbery (which no doubt is not your intention), and in the second, as a professional driver I can testify to the fact that a hi vis tabard is one of the most visible things on the road. I agree that hi vis is not a substitute for lights but day or night it can help you to be seen. You don't have to work on a building site to wear it.
  12. NigC

    NigC New Member

    During the day, I have my yellow jacket which I always use - come the summer I will probably forego this on the way home though, depending on the temperature.

    For dark - front and rear flashing lights and the yellow jacket.

    That's about it apart from the usual reflectors :ohmy:
  13. GrasB

    GrasB Veteran

    Nr Cambridge
  14. scouserinlondon

    scouserinlondon Senior Member

    streatham, London
    I wear an orange hi viz thing in summer and an night vision jacket in winter. In broad bright sunlight I'll not bother with lights, but if it's vaguely cloudy or dusk then I'll have both rear lights on flash for maximum noticeability and the hope vision on flash up front. Once it gets properly dark one rear on flash, t'other on steady. I'll put the hope onto steady at level 2/3 and my fenix l2d on the lid. I have a spare cateye front flashing light but probably three lights at the front is overkill so don't bother much with that.

    If people don't see a hope 1 on the bike and a fenix on the lid then I'm f@@ked anyway.
  15. Moodyman

    Moodyman Guru

    Hi Viz reflective vest on top of my regular cycling tops - regardless of day or night. I've tried doing without the vest during the day and find drivers pass a lot closer in busy traffic.

    Lights on the bike, but only come on if twilight or after dark.

    If I look silly in hi viz during daylight so be it. I'm commuting not partaking in a fashion parade.
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