was Deckard a replicant?
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Nigel-YZ1
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I think that some films should not have sequels.
) - I'd say 'no'. I'd even go so far as to say that he represents us in our search for what it is to be human.
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although, as with rachael, he may have been given a false memory back-story and made more 'human' to ensure that neither he joined the rebels due to realising what he was, or he was recruited by them once they realised…
captain nemo1701
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This is an old argument amongst SF fans. From what I've heard over the years, the clue is at the end of the movie when he picks up the origami unicorn. Apparently, there is also a cut scene where he dreams about unicorns. Deckard is supposed to be a replicant who has the false memories of Tyrells daughter whom was obsessed by unicorns. I think she died, so Tryell had her meories implanted in Deckard. Who better to chase replicants than another replicant?. The origami unicorn was left in the apartment at the end of the movie by Deckards chinese partner, who is basically saying that he knows Deckard is a replicant and will hunt him down.
Incidentally, the footage shown at the end of the movie was not in the original cut. It's stock footage from Kubrick's The Shining.
Incidentally, the footage shown at the end of the movie was not in the original cut. It's stock footage from Kubrick's The Shining.
Yellow Fang
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Yes he was.
- The first hint was after Rachael's void comp test. She asked him if he'd ever taken the test himself.
- Deckard dreams of unicorns, which means nothing by itself, but when that other blade runner left an origami unicorn outside his flat, it meant he knew that he dreamt of unicorns. How could he know this? Because those dreams had been implanted in his brain like Rachael's childhood memories were implanted in hers.
- After the final fight with Roy, Roy saved Deckard's life because he had clocked him as a replicant. When Deckard is hanging off the building by one hand, Roy says something like, 'To live in fear, that is what it is to be a slave.' Deckard is at the time very frightened, implying that Deckard is a slave, i.e. a replicant.
- After Roy's death, the other bladerunner with the walking stick and the limp says something like, "It's a pity she won't live (about Rachael), but then again, who does?" The answer is Deckard lives, but only if he terminates Rachael.
BrumJim
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He is.
The film is a metaphor for ethnic cleansing, apartheid, etc. We are rooting for Deckard throughout the film, and therefore the dawning realisation after you have left the Cinema that the Hero of the film, the one that the men wanted to be, and the women wanted to be with, was actually one of the skins that we were initially encouraged to despise, is the long lasting message of it.
The film is a metaphor for ethnic cleansing, apartheid, etc. We are rooting for Deckard throughout the film, and therefore the dawning realisation after you have left the Cinema that the Hero of the film, the one that the men wanted to be, and the women wanted to be with, was actually one of the skins that we were initially encouraged to despise, is the long lasting message of it.
Yellow Fang
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I read the book the film was based on called "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" by Phillip K Dick a long time ago. From memory, it was very different from the film. The replicants were mechanical rather than bio-engineered. Not much of the plot seemed the same. I don't think the replicants were actually called replicants in the book. Their problem seemed to be that they could not empathise. They were basically sociopaths. I thought the film was better than the book.
ColinJ
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You've just reminded me that I bought the book years ago but have never read it! It must be lying around the house somewhere, unless it was accidentally disposed of in one of my Great Recycling Purges ...
cyberknight
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Yes he is and the sequel "book " bladerunner 2 , the edge of human sucked big time .
The happy ending was stuck on after movie execs wanted the film to end on a happier note so ridley scott had to ask kubrick if he could use some stock footage and as kubrick is renowned for overshooting there was tons of it .
The workprint directors cut afaik both end when the lift door closes , guess i will have to go review the 5 versions i have on DVD ; )
rh100
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well there was this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/feb/06/harrison-ford-blade-runner-sequel followed by this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/feb/07/harrison-ford-blade-runner-sequel?intcmp=239
Shame
Quite a few well known movies are based on Phillip K Dick stories
Shame
Quite a few well known movies are based on Phillip K Dick stories
mickle
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Gosh. Had my mind changed by a CycleChat thread....
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I think the idea of films 'set in the same Universe as' other sucessful films is a good idea. It doesn't detract from the original and doesn't spoil it if it is rubbish. It also allows known characters to be mentioned but without needing to bring back an aging actor to play younger versions of themselves.
I wasn't convinced, at the time, that Deckard was a replicant but over the years I am now sure of it.
