Way of the Roses; just done it!

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vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
I do use panniers on the rear rack, but I reckon to carry a tent, sleeping bag, mattress (I have a Thermarest self inflater so it's light enough), and all the other bits 'n' pieces required for a 500 mile trip I will need front ones as well. The weight distribution factor would come into it as well. I have done a short camping trip before, using only rear panniers, and it was a bit of a nightmare not having any weight at the front!

I abandoned the use of front panniers several years ago and found that I can carry everything in two rear panniers and a bar bag. The tent gets bungeed across the top of the rear panniers.

Using only rear panniers forces you to be more disciplined about what you take with you. There used to be a lot of stuff that I'd bring back with me that never saw light of day on a two week tour.
 
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Brandane

Legendary Member
Location
Costa Clyde
I abandoned the use of front panniers several years ago and found that I can carry everything in two rear panniers and a bar bag. The tent gets bungeed across the top of the rear panniers.

Using only rear panniers forces you to be more disciplined about what you take with you. There used to be a lot of stuff that I'd bring back with me that never saw light of day on a two week tour.

That's encouraging. I don't really want to carry front panniers if possible. Might consider getting a bigger bar bag to spread the weight if I can get away with that.
 

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
That's encouraging. I don't really want to carry front panniers if possible. Might consider getting a bigger bar bag to spread the weight if I can get away with that.

There's a lot of folk who swear by taking four panniers citing weight distribution as justification. I fell for that line of argument until I took just two panniers on a C2C and found everything worked just as well.

Looking at your photos, you've got a decent sized saddlebag and bar bag. A couple of decent sized panniers will do the job nicely if you are disciplined with your packing list.
 

HelenD123

Legendary Member
Location
York
Great write up. I'm hopefully doing the WOTR on the next Bank Holiday weekend.

WRT front panniers, I had four full panniers for my Canada trip and struggled to see how I could reduce the load. Then last weekend I just took two not full panniers on the rear, tent on the rack and a bar bag. I didn't feel I was missing anything.
 

phil_hg_uk

I am not a member, I am a free man !!!!!!

Thank you for that, a great write up with very useful infomation, someone should make this a sticky so anyone dong this can find it.

I havent decided exactly how long I am going to try to do this in but lucky for me I live in harrogate so I would probably try to stay the first night at home rather than in york as you did then do the rest over 1 or 2 days depending how I feel.

Just havent decided how I going going to get to and from the start/finish.
 

wormo

Guru
Location
Warrington
Well done on completing the route. I completed the route on Saturday. Beautiful countryside and very well signposted. Would recommend anyone to do it.

Can recommend the following accomodation

Lancaster - Premier Inn
Grassington - Black Horse Inn
York - Premier Inn
Bridlington - Marton Grange Country House

Arranged meal deals at Premier Inns - £22 (3 course evening meal/drink & all you can eat breakfast)

On way into Bridlington, there is a gypsy camp which has roaming dogs all of which went for us. Not pleasant at all. Also may be because of time of year a lot of restaurants had finished serving by 8pm.
 

davefb

Guru
hmm innnteresting... Loverly weather for it as well :smile: . Now, just have to get permission slips from the boss :smile:
 

Soltydog

Legendary Member
Location
near Hornsea
Got back home yesterday after doing it this week & would recommend it to anyone & everyone.
We left Morecambe about 1ish on Monday & headed for Stainforth. About 5 mins after setting off it started to rain & we got a little wet, but then the weather improved a little & although there were some threatening clouds the weather stayed mostly dry. There was a few gentle climbs, but nothing too bad, although it did have me wondering how I'd cope with the bigger climbs on the 2nd day. We avoided the steep, poor surface at Clapham & just stayed on the main for 1/4 mile or so with no problems. About 30 mins before arriving at Stainforth, the heavens really opened & by the time we arrived at the Craven Heifer (£30each) about 4ish we were soaked through. Luckily the open fire was roaring away & dried shoes & kit quite quickly :thumbsup: The CH was a great place to stop, good food & nice ale. I was particularly fond of the Nutty Black & at only 3.3% vol could consume a larger qty than I normally would on a tour :wacko: There wasn't much else to do in Stainforth, so we settled in the pub & made an evening of it.
The second day was a little kinder to us weather wise, some occasional very light rain, but that was quite welcome & kept us cool. The first big test of the day came really early on, leaving Settle, that was one hell of a climb & came a little too soon in the day after a big breakfast & everyone doing the route seemed to be walking at some point. Shortly after this climb my bike felt a little strange at the rear end & after checking I found a broken spoke which had left the rear wheel slightly out of true :angry: After checking on the map, next bike shops en-route were Skipton (which added a 16 mile detour) or Ripon which was very near the end of the day. I opted to see if it would hold out until Ripon, but it was constantly nagging on my mind. There were quite a few testing climbs on the 2nd day & a real test of my fitness which is nowhere near where it was last year :sad: Around lunch time we came to Stump Cross Caverns, so we called in there to the tea room, where we had the most amazing cherry & almond scones :tongue:At this point most of the tough climbs were over so we were looking forward to some decents. The decent into Pateley Bridge is very 'testing' It's very steep & twisty so brakes were thoroughly tested down here & think I wimped out at 30mph & kept braking. We arrived in Ripon around 3ish, so I called Moonglu bikes to see about a replacement spoke. They said they were too busy to fix it, so I got directions to buy a spoke & fix it myself . On arrival there, they asked if we were doing the WOTR & then took pity & fixed the wheel up. Excellent service & far better job than I would have managed & much quicker too, so if you need anything around Ripon way I'd recommend the guys at Moonglu. We then made good progress onto Boroughbridge where we were booked into the Lock House (£30 each) for the night. Chris greeted us on arrival with coffee & cakes :tongue: despite calling earlier in the day to say that she may be out, but would leave the conservatory open for us. Very nice coffee & cakes they were too, a great place to stay with nice comfy rooms. Quite a nice spot to stay for a night, quite a few pubs & plenty of options for tea, we opted for the Grantham Arms just over the road & had a nice meal. Most of the pubs seemed to serve Black Sheep & Theakstons, which was nice.
After a good breakfast in the morning we set of for the final day in sunshine, only for it to rain within a few minutes, although the rain didnt last too long. The final day was pretty flat, although with all the hills in the previous days, my legs were tired & even gentle slopes were a little testing and aching on my tired legs. Once we got to Beningbrough we were on familiar ground & knew the way home, even if we did get a little lost off route in York. We made good progress through the day, before stopping for lunch at Pocklington. From Pocklington we decided to head towards home, rather than Bridlington, as we've ridden the rest of the route a few times, & though Morecambe to Mappleton had a better ring to it & was about 15 miles less :biggrin:

A really good ride, a little testing, but really enjoyable, some great roads & scenery. I think we could have pushed on a little further & conquered the climb out of Settle on the first day though. There's plenty of b&bs in the many villages en-route & loads of cafe/cake stops if you wish to participate in that kind of thing :whistle:
We travelled to Morecambe by train & there were 2 of us & another couple from Leeds with bikes, but we were all fine on the train, but this may not always be the case.
Over the 3 days I did 177 miles, 9195ft of climbing in just under 15 hours riding time.
Didn't take too many snaps, but there's a few online at http://www.flickr.com/photos/50762220@N05/
 

evilclive

Active Member
The route to Clapham was non eventful until the turn off just after Wharfe on the map. It takes you up a steep hill on a badly surfaced bridle path, over a rough track and then down another steep path with an even worse surface, into Clapham. All this to avoid about 100 yards of the A65!

Yeah, I would strongly recommend avoiding that track. Fine on the MTB, but on a bike set up for road touring it's tedious and in places unrideable.

It's possible to do the climb from Austwick up on tarmac - go to the Townhead road, rather than climbing up the bridleway, but it's all unnecessary.

OTOH for a more scenic ride I'd go over the Trough of Bowland rather than the Keasden road, which avoids that decision altogether :-)

(I live in Settle...)
 
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