What do you do when you suspect bike theft?

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Then you'll be pleased to know that from the full description you just gave (not just the shoes), I wouldn't even look twice at you!

I could start to list examples of people I would think about stopping, but then I'd either be accused of stereotyping or giving away police secrets, so I'll keep silent :smile:
What's wrong with me, huh?? <shuffles off in a huff>
 

TheSpence

Oh. Hello.
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Leicester/shire
I would personally drop an email to the local Police Beat team describing exactly what you saw, what the guy looked like, his clothes, his beat up bike, and the bike you saw him with. Also the time and date you saw him.

It would not be investigated as a standard crime, however say for example there was a crime reported 1km away, with a bike being taken that matches the description of the bike you saw you could become a valuable witness. The description of the chap could then potentially match up with a serial offender whom the Police Beat team deal with on a near enough daily basis. Who knows?

I was in the Police several years ago, and the amount of Bike thefts that occured and did not get solved was horrendous. Go with your gut; if you think he stole it. Report it.
 

chriss2.0

Active Member
Location
hartlepool
your best bet, if you see anything suspicious, take a photo with your phone, and call 111 (non urgant version of 999) and report a possible crime in progress
 
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jeffpoulin

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Thanks for the ideas everyone. This happened around 7:30am on Tuesday not far from a university. The man was "rough looking" (subjective, I know), and perhaps in his mid-30s. We were riding in opposite directions, so I got a good look at him for maybe 2 seconds or so. Not ever having seen him on my commute before and being surprised by what I saw, I simply stared at him as he rode by in an attempt to send a non-verbal message that at least one fellow cyclist saw him. That way, if it was stolen, it might make him think twice about being so brazen again. Of course, it could have just been his own bike or a friend's, and as I didn't get a long look at him (or the bike), there isn't much to do. I just know that if my bike ever got stolen and someone saw someone else riding off with it, I would like to know more about it.
 

Mad Doug Biker

Banned from every bar in the Galaxy
Location
Craggy Island
You seem to be advocating the 'do nothing' stance.

He didn't see anything, he knew nothing about it, there's only so much you can do anyway. Besides, there are so many variables that might have led up to that moment, you just don't know.

Why would a bike thief hold onto the beater bike? Dump that, cycle the road bike home quickly so you don't attract attention and pick a new beater bike anywhere with a pair of tin snips. No, I think this was legitimate.
Unless you've got a reason to do anything about it (which you don't) then I'd say it's best to keep your thoughts to yourself. What would you actually do anyway, confront him? That could end badly.

Exactly, if I was confronted by someone just because of my appearance I'd tell them where to jump (although not with those words).

It doesn't always require a head-on confrontation.

There have been a couple of occasions when I've seen people struggling with their lock or pushing one that seemed rather flash compared to the person's appearance.

Stop being such a judgemental **** for a start! Sorry, but it has to be said.
No it doesn't.

:giggle:

I simply rode over and asked in a friendly manner whether my toolkit could be of any use. It's one way of getting the person to talk about the bike and find out if he seems genuine and you can then make up your mind on whether it's as dodgy as it looks. It also lets you get a decent description of the guy in the event that you decide to report it to the police.

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Thanks for the heads up, I'll be out looking for ya now! :laugh:

Seriously though, I have no doubt your intentions are good enough with helping people out, its just the implied air of suspicion I dislike, that's all.

Except I have what would be classed as a good road bike, and rarely do the 'lycra thing'. And I quite often have a Carradice roll tied to the saddle & stem. Shock horror :eek:. Even my OH is a slave to convention..... but I'd rather wear baggy shorts. If I got stopped every time by the fashion police, I would be extremely pi$$ed off.

I never do the Lycra thing either, and have even been seen riding my TT to/from places in clothes that are far from suitable. SHOCK HORROR!! LOCK ME UP OFFICER!!

No it doesn't.

Ok, same quote as above....

Harsh language maybe, but you obviously have not been unfairly judged enough in the past purely down to your actions/appearance etc. I have, its not pleasant.

That was good policing and I'd have had no objections to being stopped by a cop who spotted something didn't square with the rider compared to the bike. It's called being observant.

See above.

If you see something suspicious, notify the police. That's called being community spirited. You know, looking out for other people and their property.

Or you could just shrug your shoulders and carry on.

Unless you can be sure, you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, it might just end up biting you on the bum, that's all I'm saying.
 
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chriss2.0

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hartlepool
aah but what if you were a policeman and saw this man
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on this bike
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are you ABSOLUTELY sure ud be happy leaving that alone ?
 

glasgowcyclist

Charming but somewhat feckless
Location
Scotland
Harsh language maybe, but you obviously have not been unfairly judged enough in the past purely down to your actions/appearance etc.

Now who's being judgmental?

Having grown up in one of the most deprived areas in Scotland, with very high violent crime and unemployment rates, I can assure you my many encounters with authority were based on my appearance and actions. I've never had a chip on my shoulder about that and I am generally very supportive of the police.

Unless you can be sure, you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, it might just end up biting you on the bum, that's all I'm saying.

Would you prefer for something bad to happen before taking some form of action? Would that be a society worth having?

Can you imagine the cyclist who reports his bike stolen by a hoodie only to have the cop say, "So it was a Trek Madone 6 series eh? Yeaaah, I saw one being ridden near where yours was nicked and I thought it looked odd him wearing Doc Martens and a hoodie but hey, we can't all go around being judgmental ****s eh?"


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Linford

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Take a pic if possible, ring 101 and ask if there an email address you can forward it too for the local station covering that patch. If a theft gets reported, then they have something to work with. The idea of a lid cam becomes moore apealing by the minute :smile:
 

chriss2.0

Active Member
Location
hartlepool
Take a pic if possible, ring 101 and ask if there an email address you can forward it too for the local station covering that patch. If a theft gets reported, then they have something to work with. The idea of a lid cam becomes moore apealing by the minute :smile:
me too, iv been looking at youtube vids, and i think i may need one but they are so darn expensive!
 

Mad Doug Biker

Banned from every bar in the Galaxy
Location
Craggy Island
aah but what if you were a policeman and saw this man
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on this bike
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are you ABSOLUTELY sure ud be happy leaving that alone ?

Where did you find that picture of me? :giggle:
I bet there are some middle aged cyclists on here who look a bit like that! :whistle:

Now who's being judgmental?

Having grown up in one of the most deprived areas in Scotland, with very high violent crime and unemployment rates, I can assure you my many encounters with authority were based on my appearance and actions.

I understand what you are saying, but at the same time surely you should know better than to automatically brand people as some sort of deviant based purely on appearance or actions. Did it not get a bit annoying all these encounters and the constant having to explain yourself?

I've never had a chip on my shoulder about that and I am generally very supportive of the police.

It isn't so much the Police I have a problem with, its more the fact that I am interested in and do one or two things where large bits of society generally feel that they have some sort of God given right to slag you off, ridicule you, judge you and make offensive coments about you for precisely no reason (I genuinely have still to hear a remotely sensible argument for how people act towards me and others). Of course I have a frickin' chip on my shoulder at the general stupidity of sheeple, the hive mentality, the 'monkey see monkey do'ers'.
Of course this has nothing to do with the original subject matter, don't take it personally, but it does sort of colour my views.
Umm.... Anyway.... *Wanders off muttering to himself*. :crazy:

Would you prefer for something bad to happen before taking some form of action? Would that be a society worth having?

I don't do it on here, I know, but in 'real life' I generally sit back, and try to keep my power dry and act when I have too. You are obviously different, I get it, but just remember not to judge to early.

Can you imagine the cyclist who reports his bike stolen by a hoodie only to have the cop say, "So it was a Trek Madone 6 series eh? Yeaaah, I saw one being ridden near where yours was nicked and I thought it looked odd him wearing Doc Martens and a hoodie but hey, we can't all go around being judgmental ****s eh?"
Going on what I hear, the Police often couldn't give much of a toss anyway! :wacko:
Seriously though, the Police are one thing, do gooder types who get the wrong idea about you are quite another.
 

Gravity Aided

Legendary Member
Location
Land of Lincoln
Lord knows, I look a fright cycling home from work in clothes that are not my best, which have spent all day in a pannier bag, the same pannier bag which carries my security uniform, which I do not wear when not on post, driving my bus. But the only time I pushed a bike, I was riding my commuter, pushing an even worse looking Fuji from a scrap metal dealers place. It is nice that the public takes an interest in what is going on around them, and reports suspicious things. I'm sure the police cannot be everywhere. Often, they already have knowledge of the local activities and those participating. If the fellow matches a complaint or description, he may be asked about it. Also, the police may know he's okay.
 
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