What is your lowest gear and how low is too low. Are new bikes geared too high?

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Dogtrousers

Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
Development is definitely used in continental Europe, as you would expect, inches don't mean much outside of the UK and US. However the most common use is to say how many "developments" you have, ie, how many distinct gear combinations.

Cheers. My exposure to French cycling terminology is nil.

I did bone up on my bike parts French last year when I was hiring a bike. I got there, primed with all my newly learned vocab, only to find that the bike hire place was run by a couple from Yorkshire. (Ardiden Vélos in Luz St Sauver btw. Highly recommended)
 

freiston

Veteran
Location
Coventry
. . . and whilst I'm here

I find the best way to work out my gear inches is to just input the tooth counts and tyre size into this website:

https://www.gear-calculator.com/

Then you can see different speeds for different gears at different cadences, you can easily see what difference an new cassette will make, you can see where your overlaps and gaps are etc. etc..
 

Sharky

Legendary Member
Location
Kent
Ironically, with U16 racing, there is a maximum gear restriction, measured not by inches, but by the distance covered by one pedal revolution, when in the highest gear. The distance being 6.93 metres (I think).
 

Dogtrousers

Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
. . . and whilst I'm here

I find the best way to work out my gear inches is to just input the tooth counts and tyre size into this website:

https://www.gear-calculator.com/

Then you can see different speeds for different gears at different cadences, you can easily see what difference an new cassette will make, you can see where your overlaps and gaps are etc. etc..
What is really cool about that website is the ability to create a link to the currently selected setup. It's actually better than the spreadsheet I wrote (which has a similar facility and gives similar numbers) but I'm never going to admit that.

Ironically, with U16 racing, there is a maximum gear restriction, measured not by inches, but by the distance covered by one pedal revolution, when in the highest gear. The distance being 6.93 metres (I think).
Presumably that's something that's unified across countries? In which case the UCI or whoever is doing the governing is showing their continental roots and using développement
 

Sharky

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Location
Kent
Presumably that's something that's unified across countries? In which case the UCI or whoever is doing the governing is showing their continental roots.
I believe it is a UCI standard, adopted by the UK .
But rolling a bike along a measured length of road is probably the quickest and easiest method of checking gear sizes. Counting teeth and measuring wheel diameters to calculate a gear size, would not be very practical at the start of a race with say 40 riders.
 

Dogtrousers

Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
I believe it is a UCI standard, adopted by the UK .
But rolling a bike along a measured length of road is probably the quickest and easiest method of checking gear sizes. Counting teeth and measuring wheel diameters to calculate a gear size, would not be very practical at the start of a race with say 40 riders.
Suddenly développement is beginning to sound like the more sensible and practical option. I may recalibrate my brain to use it.

In your example 6.93m would be the circumference of the notional penny farthing wheel. Circumference is πd so that is 6.93/π or 2.21m or 86.8" Does that sound about right?
 

Sharky

Legendary Member
Location
Kent
And thinking about the question "Are new bikes geared too high?"

In a "medium gear event", that's a maximum of 72", the late Zak Carr recorded a sub 54 minute 25.

Don't know if this is still the record.
 

avecReynolds531

Veteran
Location
Small Island
Sheldon Brown's gear calculator has options for wheel, tyre, and cranks, cassettes, and hub gears.

The results are given in gain ratio, gear inches, meters development (the website spelling), and a variety of mph or kph at certain rpm intervals.

For me, it's been very useful - particularly for single speed & Sturmey Archer. https://sheldonbrown.com/gear-calc.html

FWIW, I'm used to the lowest gear of 22T chainring & 32T sprocket on 700C, 35mm tyres, and 170mm cranks working out at 18.7"
 

Dogtrousers

Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
. . . and whilst I'm here

I find the best way to work out my gear inches is to just input the tooth counts and tyre size into this website:

https://www.gear-calculator.com/

Then you can see different speeds for different gears at different cadences, you can easily see what difference an new cassette will make, you can see where your overlaps and gaps are etc. etc..

Thanks for this @freiston I had played with this site before but found it a bit confusing. This time I rolled up my sleeves, mastered it, and it's great. I'm a convert!

Here's a link to my existing and soon-to-be setups side by side, using my new favourite website, and expressing gearing in metres of development, my new favourite way of measuring gearing. (It's just so much more intuitive than imagining a penny farthing with a really big or really small wheel. I'm a convert!)
https://www.gear-calculator.com/?GR...Z2=11,13,15,17,19,21,23,25,27,30,34&UF2=2150#

Multiply gear inches by 8 to get development in cm. Or near enough, it's to within 0.25%. 7.9796 exactly, (That's pi x 2.54, the inch->cm factor) And divide to go in the other direction
 
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