What really gets your goat while driving?

[thomas]

If you and Thomas think that's ok then I would say it equates to a RLJer on a bike, ie not a lot of consideration for anyone but themselves.

Yes, sorry...I forgot that going around a roundabout was illegal....not

It's nothing like RLJing on a bike. RLJing on a bike is like RLJing in a car.

Going around a roundabout in a car, is similar to going around a roundabout on a bike.

 

[Archie_tect]

Thomas, sadly you don't heed advice... selfish and ignorant self-justification won't endear you to the worldly but then you are young and that has a certain charm, up to a point. I tried.....

Bonj, you really shouldn't encourage him.

 

[totallyfixed]

Yes, sorry...I forgot that going around a roundabout was illegal....not

Going around a roundabout in a car, is similar to going around a roundabout on a bike.

Wrong, approaching a roundabout in the right hand turn lane to then deliberately continue all the way round and then go straight on is contravening a traffic law, you may find this a teeny bit hard to believe but, an arrow pointing right in a traffic lane means the same at a roundabout as it does at a junction, turn right only. Of course the onus is then to prove it was deliberate.......but then you already admitted that

 

[CopperBrompton]

You aren't seriously suggesting this as a rational course of action?

To be precise, the TRL and Highways Agency are seriously suggesting it as a rational course of action, and I am endorsing it.

 

[CopperBrompton]

There comes a point though where it isn't safe and it is pushing in.

Mostly because idiots deliberately block them, when what they should be doing is merging in turn - ie. allow one car room to merge in front of them.

 

[Archie_tect]

I'm glad i live up here if this is the way you lot behave down south.

 

[Archie_tect]

Mostly because idiots deliberately block them, when what they should be doing is merging in turn - ie. allow one car room to merge in front of them.

Why in front Ben, if you are approaching a line of stationary traffic why do you have to get in front of them all...that shows a certain cockiness which won't endear you to others... just relax, you'll still get where you're going on time if you leave early enough.

 

[Rhythm Thief]

Mostly because idiots deliberately block them, when what they should be doing is merging in turn - ie. allow one car room to merge in front of them.

I usually leave room for one car to merge in front of me. Sometimes even four or five. It's when you get people trying to barge their way in after that that I start blocking them; after all, I'm trying to get somewhere too!

 

[al78]

Why in front Ben, if you are approaching a line of stationary traffic why do you have to get in front of them all...that shows a certain cockiness which won't endear you to others... just relax, you'll still get where you're going on time if you leave early enough.

How is a driver supposed to create a gap behind them? The only way they could do this is to travel slightly faster than the car behind, which is probably impossible as they would rear-end the car in front. It is trivially easy, however, to travel marginally slower than the car in front for a few seconds to create a car length gap in front. This is why the gaps need to be created in front of the drivers.

 

[Archie_tect]

Watching people's behaviour in stationary traffic on dual carriageways tells you a lot about their characters.
The ones who constantly change lanes to get as far up the queues as possible... the ones who tailgate the car in front even though there's miles of nose to tail traffic ahead... the slip road jumpers who scrape up the slip roads to the end and beyond... the ones who leave the road at junctions to jump back in on the on-slip to gain a few car lengths. The ones who block motorbikes from getting past, the ones who floor it at the first sign of a gap then stamp on the brakes... the list goes on....

 

[Archie_tect]

How is a driver supposed to create a gap behind them? The only way they could do this is to travel slightly faster than the car behind, which is probably impossible as they would rear-end the car in front. It is trivially easy, however, to travel marginally slower than the car in front for a few seconds to create a car length gap in front. This is why the gaps need to be created in front of the drivers.

I know al, I know... just teasing Ben- I am amused by the deliberate misunderstandings on this thread... impatience just leads to aggression and accidents.

 

[PaulB]

Yes, sorry...I forgot that going around a roundabout was illegal....not

It's nothing like RLJing on a bike. RLJing on a bike is like RLJing in a car.

Going around a roundabout in a car, is similar to going around a roundabout on a bike.

Thomas; others have been a bit more patient with you and tried to show you the error of your ways and you've obviously taken them on board but having painted yourself into a corner, you're digging yourself into an increasingly ridiculous hole but I can't be bothered with all that. I'd just like to say you are a div.

 

[thomas]

Why in front Ben, if you are approaching a line of stationary traffic why do you have to get in front of them all...that shows a certain cockiness which won't endear you to others... just relax, you'll still get where you're going on time if you leave early enough.

Ultimately, if you need to get into the inside lane, be that 200 meters from when the cones go in, or 2 meters you'll have to pull in front of someone...unless the road is empty.

Thomas; others have been a bit more patient with you and tried to show you the error of your ways and you've obviously taken them on board but having painted yourself into a corner, you're digging yourself into an increasingly ridiculous hole but I can't be bothered with all that. I'd just like to say you are a div.

hah. Some people take this too seriously! If the worst thing about my driving is that when I used to go to Sixth Form I was a bit cheeky at the roundabout then I can cope with that.

Okay, so moving on from that...things that get my goat:

Middle lane/outside lane hoggers. If you're not overtaking get into the inside lane!

Tailgating. Never really any need to do it. If you do it to me I'll just slow down until you back off.

Those who don't use indicators (mainly at roundabouts). If you're going straight over, indicate left when appropriate, if you're going right indicate right.

Fog lights when there's no fog.

People with broken bulbs - seriously, they cost nothing. Get it fixed.

People who drive under the speed limit, but a reasonable factor, when it is safe to do the speed limit. For instance, people who do 40mph on a road when 60mph would be just as safe.

Anyone who drives without insurance or a licence.

I'm sure there are more - will have a think

 

[Norm]

People with broken bulbs - seriously, they cost nothing. Get it fixed.

I had a car with HID's which cost £700 for a new headlight. Luckily, it was a company vehicle but I still blanched.

People who drive under the speed limit, but a reasonable factor, when it is safe to do the speed limit. For instance, people who do 40mph on a road when 60mph would be just as safe.

There's a piece of road between Windsor and Maidenhead which has a 60 limit. I doubt I can do that road once a week without coming up behind someone doing 45. Which wouldn't be a problem but, when the road goes into the towns at either end, the limit drops to 40. Numpty Dough-Brain still travels at 45.

 

[thomas]

I had a car with HID's which cost £700 for a new headlight. Luckily, it was a company vehicle but I still blanched.

There's a piece of road between Windsor and Maidenhead which has a 60 limit. I doubt I can do that road once a week without coming up behind someone doing 45. Which wouldn't be a problem but, when the road goes into the towns at either end, the limit drops to 40. Numpty Dough-Brain still travels at 45.

£700 ... pfffft... cheap . You know the bulbs in halfords, they sell them for about £6 each...they cost about 20p if you get them at trade value.

For me, back home the main road between Woking and Guildford. It's a 60, lovely and straight which minimal side junctions, which you have good visibility of. People do 30-40...grrr...Just have to chill out and wait behind as it's unlikely that there will be a safe overtaking slot.

It turns into a 30 at the Guildford end, but you have to slow down for a few mini roundabouts, traffic lights and things so it's not that bad.

Okay, some more things...

People who block junctions. Less so minor side junctions (unless I want to go into them), but people who block roundabouts so that they can go 3 meters further into traffic and stop anyone else going the way they want to. Or at traffic lights, where people just force there way in and then block the road so no one else can go when the lights change for the other people.

Oh, and anyone else driving on the road in rush hour - don't they know I have places to get to (Just kidding...but seriously, I can't stand just sitting in traffic - even though at certain times of the day it is more or less inevitable and I'm part of the cause).