What single work of creation would you remove from the world?

[srw]

Anyway, back on topic. The way to get rid of Wagner within the rules of the game and without removing the entirety of European music is to assume that the Bayreuth opera House never existed.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

No. There's no need to be so sensitive. Im suggesting there are often elements of fear, ignorance or prejudice in aesthetic judgements. Perhaps you could, in keeping with the rules of the game, pick the track or album you wish to have disappeared. Or at least expand a little on the insightful and original critique you made by putting a 'c' in front of 'rap'?

Because I don't like it, I think it is all Crap, it's not singing, it's not music, I don't understand it, people like it good for them. Just for info I also don't like heavy rock, Metallica, Black Sabbath, Punk doesn't do a lot for me either, along with Garage, Grunge, Grim, Techno. Suggesting that just because rap primarily an Afro American base that I am racist is highly insulting, strangely I have an American friend who finds that term 'Afro American' very insulting, he's American nothing Afro about him.

 

[winjim]

But it is the only Rap tune I can mange a half decent rap to, said a hip hop Hippie to the hippie The hip, hip a hop, and you don't stop, a rock it out Bubba to the bang bang boogie, boobie to the boogie.

For the record though a lot of Rap music is sampled beats from popular and not so popular songs. James Brown being the most popular, still. Just one song sampled in 1435 songs. Always wondered if James Brown got any royalties from it.


https://www.whosampled.com/James-Brown/Funky-Drummer/sampled/

The surviving member of The Wnstons finally got some money for the Amen Break. Crowdfunded by goodwill rather than royalties and somewhat less than he's entitled to, but it's a nice gesture.


Amen Break musician finally gets paid - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34785551

 

[Julia9054]

Wear jeans and a warm coat. It's you that's been invited, not your clothes.

Tempting! Can't see it going down well with my husband's very traditional family though.
Plus the dressing up bit is the only bit i quite like!

 

[Profpointy]

Anyway, back on topic. The way to get rid of Wagner within the rules of the game and without removing the entirety of European music is to assume that the Bayreuth opera House never existed.

Or even stop mad King Ludwig from supporting Wagner and bankrupting Bavaria in the process, paving the way for Bismark to take over Bavaria, vindicating Prussian militarism, and the resulting horrors of the 20th century. All Wagner's fault.

Still, he could write a good horn tune amongst all that ghastly warbly singing.


View: https://youtu.be/I6DjQ1-T3z8

 

[derrick]

All Religions. peace on earth.

 

[flake99please]

This.....

 

[Julia9054]

As a brass player, I love a bit of Wagner!

 

[theclaud]

It’s the sort of term that Tony Blair or Peter Mandelson would use...

I threw it in to annoy srw. But that hurts.

 

[MontyVeda]

This poster was so outrageously sexist that no self-respecting student would dream of putting it on his wall next to The Who Maximum R&B poster that came with The Who Live At Leeds LP and the black and red Che Guevara poster nicked from the student common room after a night on the booze.

View attachment 388873

Little known fact... it's Bjorn Borg.

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

Little known fact... it's Bjorn Borg.

You cannot be serious!

 

[John the Monkey]

The genre wide dislikes are a bit baffling to me. The guitar focused stuff that tends to clog the Friday night... threads really isn't my cup of tea, but even there, there's the odd thing interesting enough to merit not binning all of it.

Without really narrowing the definition, I find it hard to find *everything* within a "type" of music awful.

(Apologies for the diversion)

 

[theclaud]

It's mildly amusing to see the knots into which some people tie themselves trying to support the existence of a multi-billion pound and tax-avoiding entertainment industry merely because of a historical association with the working classes.

If you want to call that amusement snobbery, go ahead.

Just because there's a legitimate critique to be made of the industry and/or the culture, doesn't mean that those with an indiscriminate antipathy towards everything about the game are not snobs. As it happens, you are merely Exhibit B on this score. I didn't mention Exhibit A as he is not part of the discussion (and I don't want to risk the Candyman effect), however I expect a forum search for the term 'Wendyball' will throw up a fair few hits, and it's been noted before that it's impossible to mention football, even between interested people talking about a particular game, without dozens of people piling in to tell everyone just how uninterested they are in 'the spectacle of grown men being paid gazillions to kick a pig's bladder round a field' or other such reductive cobblers. They're almost as bad as those people who don't have a telly.

 

[nickyboy]

The genre wide dislikes are a bit baffling to me. The guitar focused stuff that tends to clog the Friday night... threads really isn't my cup of tea, but even there, there's the odd thing interesting enough to merit not binning all of it.

Without really narrowing the definition, I find it hard to find *everything* within a "type" of music awful.

(Apologies for the diversion)

Death Metal...nuff said

 

[theclaud]

I don't understand it.

Thanks for that.

In what sense do you claim it is not music? I get that people say this, by way of general disparagement, about all musical innovations by younger generations, but do they actually think it stands up to a moment's scrutiny? Oh, and I didn't use the term 'Afro-American', so I'm not sure why you are picking me up on it.