What single work of creation would you remove from the world?

[theclaud]

Can I say that, as a Palace fan, I have no interest in football?

Understandable.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

In what sense do you claim it is not music?

It just isn't sorry, bit like Jazz, that's not music either it's just noise, I'm sure if I could be bother to scour the whole back catalogue of both genre I would find a few gems, but I would rather both of them to the Room 101 wheelie bin.

When I also said I don't understand it, I mean that literally, I do not understand it, I do not understand what is being said, that could be down to my damaged hearing, but I am surprised that you are defending it, of the parts I manage to decipher seems very misogynistic, rap not jazz

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

The Bible.

The last two thousand years could have been very different without it.

I'd only take Genesis out of it, simply for the pleasure of discombobulating proponents of ''Intelligent (sic) Design'' and only leaving them the right-wing old-testamentality bits of it.

 

[Hitchington]

It just isn't sorry, bit like Jazz, that's not music either

It's one thing to say that you don't like rap or jazz, but to say they're "not music", well that's just weird.

 

[theclaud]

I'd take Genesis out of it.

I think we can all get behind you there...

 

[Tim Hall]

Abba

Wot, no Petrarchan Sonnets?

 

[User169]

The Lark ableedinscending (and mid 20th century English pastoralism more generally). Inward looking, dreariness - it's as if VW listenened to Elgar and learned all the wrong lessons. None of that fancy dan plinky plonky European stuff for us (VW was scandalized by Ravel on a personal level)!

The weaponized vanguard arts wing of what has now sporulated as the Brexit movement. I just pulled the first YouTube vid I could find and take a look at the imagery..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u-qmfUFeXI

 

[srw]

those people who don't have a telly.

LOL

 

[Deleted member 26715]

It's one thing to say that you don't like rap or jazz, but to say they're "not music", well that's just weird.

Guilty as charged, Rap or speaking fast into the microphone, is not singing, therefore not music, Jazz, 4 or 5 individuals stood together all playing different instruments, different styles, different tunes, is just a cacophony of noise. Let's agree to disagree & move on,

 

[srw]

The Lark ableedinscending (and mid 20th century English pastoralism more generally). Inward looking, dreariness - it's as if VW listenened to Elgar and learned all the wrong

That's hardly typical RVW. Listen to the symphonies or the Mass or the Songs of Travel.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

The Lark ableedinscending (and mid 20th century English pastoralism more generally). Inward looking, dreariness - it's as if VW listenened to Elgar and learned all the wrong lessons. None of that fancy dan plinky plonky European stuff for us (VW was scandalized by Ravel on a personal level)!

The weaponized vanguard arts wing of what has now sporulated as the Brexit movement. I just pulled the first YouTube vid I could find and take a look at the imagery..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u-qmfUFeXI

You'd probably have to listen to the gruesome dissonance of Vaughan Williams' later symphonies to appreciate how far he travelled from tunesmith to doomsmith.

 

[User169]

You'd probably have to listen to the gruesome dissonance of Vaughan Williams' later symphonies to appreciate how far he travelled from tunesmith to doomsmith.

Sorry, wrong vid!!

This was what was intended: Stonehenge - check! White Cliffs - check! Green and pleasant land - check!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huUvk6WPTMY

 

[User169]

That's hardly typical RVW. Listen to the symphonies or the Mass or the Songs of Travel.

Antarctic Symphony - good old Captain Scott - a fine celebration of English amateurist failure whot!!

 

[Profpointy]

Vaughan Williams is a fantastic composer. Admittedly I'm less keen on his first symphony but the rest are fantastic. Hey, Beethoven's first is hardly up the the standard of the rest, jolly as it is. And VW's fantasia on Thomas Tallis is one the the most achingly beautiful pieces of music ever written if you avoid the classic fm style cheesy versions

 

[User169]

Vaughan Williams is a fantastic composer. Admittedly I'm less keen on his first symphony but the rest are fantastic. Hey, Beethoven's first is hardly up the the standard of the rest, jolly as it is. And VW's fantasia on Thomas Tallis is one the the most achingly beautiful pieces of music ever written if you avoid the classic fm style cheesy versions

Brexiter!