What the flying gate is this?

Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by Jacomus-rides-Gen, 1 Dec 2007.

  1. vernon

    vernon Harder than Ronnie Pickering

    Meanwood, Leeds
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I find the curly Hetchins grotesque - it looks like it has been rear ended where as the Flying Gate, to me, is a thing of beauty. I saw an original Baines' Flying Gate at the since closed cycle museum in Camelford and I was smitten. I found the TJ Flying Gate web site and found the prices be well north of my budget. I stumbled across one for sale in the CTC forums for £150. It had been converted into a fixed wheel bike and the gear lever bosses on the down tube had been hacksawed off. I bought it with a view of doing some fixed wheel cycling but found that it was not to my liking. I contacted Trevor Jarvis to enquire about a refurbishment and restoration to geared status, converting it to 700c wheels from 27" wheels and having it re-enamelled. He did a great job and I bought second hand parts to restore it to a geared version.

    I'd read the hype about it being a comfortable bike and that the short chain stays making the rear end more rigid and providing an invisible 'helping hand' on ascents through more power being delivered to the rear wheel through less energy absorption by frame flex. My cynicism about the 'helping hand' was dispelled on my first hilly ride. It does get up hills easier than my identically geared Dave Yates' bike and offers a very comfortable ride on distances up to 200km. I've not ridden further than 200km so can not comment upon even longer distances.

    I couple of years ago i managed to get a close up view of a Baines' Flying Gate and the rearmost stays on the original are much thinner than the Trevor Jarvis version.
  2. Ian H

    Ian H I am an ancient randonneur, & I stop often for tea

    East Devon
    The Baines is a little more elegant. I wonder whether the demise of pencil stays is due to the extra force of modern dual-pivot brakes.
  3. KneesUp

    KneesUp Veteran

    Hope you've managed to find something as good as the W810i?
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  4. Malky

    Malky Senior Member

    Newport IOW
    Great pics , thanks. I have a Hetchins, I don't think they look like they have been rear ended at all. If you look at the modern Carbon jobs, very much a modern shape now, I think .
  5. GM

    GM Legendary Member

    North of the river
    Vernon, is that the one you used a couple of years ago on Dellzeqq's Xmas Tourette's Ride around London? Very nice eye catcher!
  6. Globalti

    Globalti Legendary Member


    Distinctive frame designs allowed race spectators to identify bikes when it was against the rules to show the maker's name prominently on the frame.
  7. The best mobile phone I had. I might go and have a look on ebay this evening to get another to replace this useless piece of dogturd I have now.
  8. Tim Hall

    Tim Hall Guest

    I feel like I'm an imposter.
  9. vernon

    vernon Harder than Ronnie Pickering

    Meanwood, Leeds
    Yep. It's one and the same.
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  10. luckyfox

    luckyfox She's the cats pajamas

    County Durham
    You know when someone makes you a fried egg sandwich and a bit of the white isnt cooked... yeah this makes me feel like that:blink:
  11. vernon

    vernon Harder than Ronnie Pickering

    Meanwood, Leeds
    Living in Darlington used to make me feel like that.
  12. dan_bo

    dan_bo How much does it cost to Oldham?

    Ive got one in the kitchen drawer. No you're not having it.
    Pro Tour Punditry likes this.
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