What the flying gate is this?

vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
I don't see it as exactly a thing of beauty, unlike, say, a curly Hetchins. However, a friend who owns an original Hetchins and a TJ Gate says that the former is a pig to ride whereas the Gate handles like a dream.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I find the curly Hetchins grotesque - it looks like it has been rear ended where as the Flying Gate, to me, is a thing of beauty. I saw an original Baines' Flying Gate at the since closed cycle museum in Camelford and I was smitten. I found the TJ Flying Gate web site and found the prices be well north of my budget. I stumbled across one for sale in the CTC forums for £150. It had been converted into a fixed wheel bike and the gear lever bosses on the down tube had been hacksawed off. I bought it with a view of doing some fixed wheel cycling but found that it was not to my liking. I contacted Trevor Jarvis to enquire about a refurbishment and restoration to geared status, converting it to 700c wheels from 27" wheels and having it re-enamelled. He did a great job and I bought second hand parts to restore it to a geared version.

I'd read the hype about it being a comfortable bike and that the short chain stays making the rear end more rigid and providing an invisible 'helping hand' on ascents through more power being delivered to the rear wheel through less energy absorption by frame flex. My cynicism about the 'helping hand' was dispelled on my first hilly ride. It does get up hills easier than my identically geared Dave Yates' bike and offers a very comfortable ride on distances up to 200km. I've not ridden further than 200km so can not comment upon even longer distances.

I couple of years ago i managed to get a close up view of a Baines' Flying Gate and the rearmost stays on the original are much thinner than the Trevor Jarvis version.
 

Ian H

I am an ancient randonneur, & I stop often for tea
Location
East Devon
The Baines is a little more elegant. I wonder whether the demise of pencil stays is due to the extra force of modern dual-pivot brakes.
 

Malky

Senior Member
Location
Newport IOW
Great pics , thanks. I have a Hetchins, I don't think they look like they have been rear ended at all. If you look at the modern Carbon jobs, very much a modern shape now, I think .
 

GM

Legendary Member
I'm not waiting three years to get my hands on one. I just go to my garage and get mine out.

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It's a superbly comfortable bike to ride. I'm thinking of having it resprayed pale green to match my Woodrup Chimera. It's currently colour matched to my Dave Yates Randonneur.
Vernon, is that the one you used a couple of years ago on Dellzeqq's Xmas Tourette's Ride around London? Very nice eye catcher!
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
Why?

Distinctive frame designs allowed race spectators to identify bikes when it was against the rules to show the maker's name prominently on the frame.
 
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vernon

Harder than Ronnie Pickering
Location
Meanwood, Leeds
Vernon, is that the one you used a couple of years ago on Dellzeqq's Xmas Tourette's Ride around London? Very nice eye catcher!
Yep. It's one and the same.
 
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