What to do with - suspected - self-seeded apple trees in my lawn?

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Sounds good. BTW, blackberries freeze very well. Wash them, then open freeze them on a tray, so that they don't stick together in clumps, and then when frozen, transfer to fruit bags. They're lovely to add into crumbles, yoghurt and American-style pancakes.

Photos of the apples may help us identify them - preferably on the tree, as some varieties come on stalks and others snug up right close to the branches.

A good way of dealing with excess cooking apples is to make apple butter - which is lovely on hot, buttered toast.

1) Apples, peeled, cored, chopped and weighed after processing
2) Half the quantity of sugar as you have fruit
3) Fruit in a pan with a little water. Cook on a low heat till very soft and fluffy
4) Add the sugar, stir till dissolved
5) Cook slowly till very thick - take care the bottom doesn't catch
6) When ready, a wooden spoon dragged through should leave a clear-ish channel in the bottom of the pan
7) Pour into jars and seal

N.B. This is also done with plums or pears. If done with the latter, I like to add root ginger to the fruit.
 

Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
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However, I've still managed to collect a 400g strawberry punnet's worth of green nuts from the floor which are now in a kitchen cupboard in the hope they'll ripen.
I don't want to put a damper in your enthusiasm, but I did this last year - to save the nuts from the squirrels, same as you did - but they all became mouldy :sad:
I had them spread out on oven trays in the oven.
Maybe not enough ventilation, who knows.
 
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wafter

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Sounds good. BTW, blackberries freeze very well. Wash them, then open freeze them on a tray, so that they don't stick together in clumps, and then when frozen, transfer to fruit bags. They're lovely to add into crumbles, yoghurt and American-style pancakes.

Photos of the apples may help us identify them - preferably on the tree, as some varieties come on stalks and others snug up right close to the branches.

A good way of dealing with excess cooking apples is to make apple butter - which is lovely on hot, buttered toast.

1) Apples, peeled, cored, chopped and weighed after processing
2) Half the quantity of sugar as you have fruit
3) Fruit in a pan with a little water. Cook on a low heat till very soft and fluffy
4) Add the sugar, stir till dissolved
5) Cook slowly till very thick - take care the bottom doesn't catch
6) When ready, a wooden spoon dragged through should leave a clear-ish channel in the bottom of the pan
7) Pour into jars and seal

N.B. This is also done with plums or pears. If done with the latter, I like to add root ginger to the fruit.
Thanks - my mum mentioned freezing the blackberries and it's a tempting proposition to load up on them now to try and give myself something to eat through the winter - currently surviving on fresh fruit, yoghurt and salads which is great now but I'm a bit concerned about what I'm going to eat in the cold when salads no longer satisfy and local fresh fruit has dried up.

Cheers for the thought re. the apples - sounds good but I'm currently off (or at least trying to minimise) the carbs and sadly it seems that most methods of processing apples involve large amounts of added sugar :sad:


I don't want to put a damper in your enthusiasm, but I did this last year - to save the nuts from the squirrels, same as you did - but they all became mouldy :sad:
I had them spread out on oven trays in the oven.
Maybe not enough ventilation, who knows.
Bugger :sad:

I'm surprised they went mouldy in the oven - good point about ventilation; that would make sense. Perhaps I'll give my approach a rethink. At least if nothing else I've deprived the tree rats of some food!


I've just had a really nice experience - was out the front of changing a wheel on the car (don't ask) and a family walked past with two young girls who were evidently excited about the tray of eaters I'd just put out. The mum was insisting that they weren't for eating (maybe she didn't know any better of just didn't want her kids eating random stuff on the street).. I interjected and said that actually they were for eating and to please help themselves; although it was best to cut them up because of the potential for unwelcome "guests" inside.. The kids took a few and they all wandered off.

A few minutes later they were back, gathering up all they could in makeshift containers with the dad saying they'd tried one and they were really nice :smile:

Obviously I can't take any credit for the quality of the apples, but it's really rewarding to at least be able to share something that people enjoy / value. It was also great to be reminded that there are still people about who value "proper" food and don't turn their noses up at anything that's not shrink wrapped in a thousand layers of plastic, doused in pesticides and supplied by Tesco..
 
I forage for nuts of various kinds and here's what works.

Cardboard trays from Tesco (the ones they sell grapes in), lined with a couple of sheets of newspaper. Spread the nuts out in a single layer. That's important. If you can, put them somewhere in the sun (wire mesh over the top if required) and let them dry out. Remove the husks as soon as they become loose.
 
Cheers for the thought re. the apples - sounds good but I'm currently off (or at least trying to minimise) the carbs and sadly it seems that most methods of processing apples involve large amounts of added sugar :sad:

Apple butter only has half the amount of sugar as jam. Most of the sweetness comes from the long cooking process, which allows the natural sugars to caramelize.

You could also make dried apple rings. It's a bit of a faff, but worth it. They're lovely to eat as a snack, or can then be rehydrated as part of a dried fruit compote.
 

Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
Moderator
Location
Glasgow
lined with a couple of sheets of newspaper.
This could be a challenge, acquiring newspaper!
Will the pages of a tattered old paperback do? 💡
If you can, put them somewhere in the sun
This is a challenge for sure!
For a change, we had lots of sunny days this summer here in Glasgow, but now we are back to the drizzly weather.
I'll try again, keeping an eye on the weather.
 
This could be a challenge, acquiring newspaper!
Will the pages of a tattered old paperback do? 💡

This is a challenge for sure!
For a change, we had lots of sunny days this summer here in Glasgow, but now we are back to the drizzly weather.
I'll try again, keeping an eye on the weather.

If you've a Waitrose nearby, then snag one or two of their free store newspapers ;)

Keeping decent airflow around the nuts while they're drying is the important bit xxx
 

Gillstay

Veteran
I don't want to put a damper in your enthusiasm, but I did this last year - to save the nuts from the squirrels, same as you did - but they all became mouldy :sad:
I had them spread out on oven trays in the oven.
Maybe not enough ventilation, who knows.

Your collecting too early, you need to kill the grey squirrels to enable the nuts to ripen.
 

Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
Moderator
Location
Glasgow
If you've a Waitrose nearby, then snag one or two of their free store newspapers ;)

Keeping decent airflow around the nuts while they're drying is the important bit xxx
For some weird coincidence, a FB reel about foraging hazelnuts appeared on my feed today - big brother is watching CC! :laugh:
She on the video was trying to save the nuts from the squirrels, she picked them green, then let them ripen in flat wicker trays. But then she said she didn't mind eating them green, to each his own I guess.
I'm sure you're right about the air flow @Reynard.
I'll probably try again, but I don't really have the space to spread many nuts .... :whistle::laugh:
No, I don't have a Waitrose near me: there's only one in Glasgow, located in the posh West End, with prices to match!

Your collecting too early,
Yeah, I guessed as much.
 

annedonnelly

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Thanks - my mum mentioned freezing the blackberries and it's a tempting proposition to load up on them now to try and give myself something to eat through the winter - currently surviving on fresh fruit, yoghurt and salads which is great now but I'm a bit concerned about what I'm going to eat in the cold when salads no longer satisfy and local fresh fruit has dried up.
Definitely do that. I use my frozen stocks of blackberries for my porridge through the year - supplemented with rhubarb, apple & plums.
I've nearly finished last autumn's blackberry pickings just in time as I've spotted a few ripening locally.

I've just had a really nice experience - was out the front of changing a wheel on the car (don't ask) and a family walked past with two young girls who were evidently excited about the tray of eaters I'd just put out. The mum was insisting that they weren't for eating (maybe she didn't know any better of just didn't want her kids eating random stuff on the street).. I interjected and said that actually they were for eating and to please help themselves; although it was best to cut them up because of the potential for unwelcome "guests" inside.. The kids took a few and they all wandered off.

A few minutes later they were back, gathering up all they could in makeshift containers with the dad saying they'd tried one and they were really nice :smile:

Obviously I can't take any credit for the quality of the apples, but it's really rewarding to at least be able to share something that people enjoy / value. It was also great to be reminded that there are still people about who value "proper" food and don't turn their noses up at anything that's not shrink wrapped in a thousand layers of plastic, doused in pesticides and supplied by Tesco..
Well done. Sounds like that whole family has had a nice experience and perhaps learned that local food is available and nicer than that available in the shops.
 
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wafter

wafter

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Location
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Apple butter only has half the amount of sugar as jam. Most of the sweetness comes from the long cooking process, which allows the natural sugars to caramelize.

You could also make dried apple rings. It's a bit of a faff, but worth it. They're lovely to eat as a snack, or can then be rehydrated as part of a dried fruit compote.
Thanks; I think the better sounding option is to dry them for future use in yoghurts and perhaps flapjacks if I allow myself to get back on these as the temperature and no doubt mood drops later in the year :smile:

No, I don't have a Waitrose near me: there's only one in Glasgow, located in the posh West End, with prices to match!
FWIW while pricey I've always considered their own-brand stuff decent value as the quality is usually very good.

Because I don't consider the ride a chore I hit my local maybe 2-3 times a week during the last two hours of opening to trawl for reduced items. Today was pretty good - including a tub of coleslaw (£0.60 down from £3.00), two punnets of blueberries (£1.30ea down from £2.80), 250g of sliced turkey from the deli counter (about £0.70/100g down from around £3), also some mini pork pies and and olive bread thing for the old dear at about 1/3rds normal price.

On top of that there are the usual rolling promos so if you're buying long(ish) life stuff (like cheese, yoghurt etc) you can stockpile it when it's cheaper. I also respect Waitrose more for at least attempting to promote some degree of ethics in their supply chain while continuing to offer promos to regular punters, unlike most others who now only do meaningful offers if you have one of their scummy "loyalty" cards.

By no. of ingredients I reckon typically 50-100% of my lunch salads were bought at less than retail; be that from Waitrose, M&S or the local Co-Op; I'm resisting the urge to quantify this exactly with a spreadsheet :tongue:


Definitely do that. I use my frozen stocks of blackberries for my porridge through the year - supplemented with rhubarb, apple & plums.
I've nearly finished last autumn's blackberry pickings just in time as I've spotted a few ripening locally.


Well done. Sounds like that whole family has had a nice experience and perhaps learned that local food is available and nicer than that available in the shops.
Thanks - it certainly appeals although I don't think I have the freezer space to contain all I'd need to last me a year!

I don't want to be too judgemental of the apple-snaffling family as people round here generally seem pretty sound and switched on - I see quite a few houses with fruit or other free stuff outside; suggesting that at least some folk care about helping others out and minimising wastage.

On top of that it seems the trays I put out never last more than a day (so there's clearly demand from people wishing to use them) while the only blackberries I see wasted on the floor seem to be from canes too high to reach; while I've seen a lot of people out picking.

Despite being on the edge of a city it seems that some decent connection to nature still exists :smile:
 
Thanks; I think the better sounding option is to dry them for future use in yoghurts and perhaps flapjacks if I allow myself to get back on these as the temperature and no doubt mood drops later in the year :smile:

if you need any preserving recipes / methods, just give me a yell.

FWIW while pricey I've always considered their own-brand stuff decent value as the quality is usually very good.

Because I don't consider the ride a chore I hit my local maybe 2-3 times a week during the last two hours of opening to trawl for reduced items. Today was pretty good - including a tub of coleslaw (£0.60 down from £3.00), two punnets of blueberries (£1.30ea down from £2.80), 250g of sliced turkey from the deli counter (about £0.70/100g down from around £3), also some mini pork pies and and olive bread thing for the old dear at about 1/3rds normal price.

On top of that there are the usual rolling promos so if you're buying long(ish) life stuff (like cheese, yoghurt etc) you can stockpile it when it's cheaper. I also respect Waitrose more for at least attempting to promote some degree of ethics in their supply chain while continuing to offer promos to regular punters, unlike most others who now only do meaningful offers if you have one of their scummy "loyalty" cards.

By no. of ingredients I reckon typically 50-100% of my lunch salads were bought at less than retail; be that from Waitrose, M&S or the local Co-Op; I'm resisting the urge to quantify this exactly with a spreadsheet :tongue:

Ah. A fellow Yellow Stickerer! I had good pickings in Waitrose here in Ely on Tuesday. A tray of organic lamb mince marked down from £7.59 to £2.59. Half got frozen, the other half was turned into lamb koftas for yesterday's supper. After Madam Lexi got her share, of course. Also a tray of five cooked jerk chicken thighs marked down from £4.25 to £1.49 (one thigh made a very nice chicken salad filling for a couple of wraps this evening), a packet of mange tout for 59p, four sub rolls for 69p and a pack with four pains au chocolat for 89p. That was after picking up 2kg of yellow lentils / split peas for £2.50 and a 5kg sack of Thai jasmine rice for £5.60 on YS in Tesco earlier in the afternoon.

Besides, Waitrose here is now the only place in town that has a wet fish counter other than the van that turns up on the market on a Thursday. The latter is spendy and doesn't have much choice. If you're not fussy, Waitrose always has some good bargains on fish towards the end of the day.

I don't want to be too judgemental of the apple-snaffling family as people round here generally seem pretty sound and switched on - I see quite a few houses with fruit or other free stuff outside; suggesting that at least some folk care about helping others out and minimising wastage.

On top of that it seems the trays I put out never last more than a day (so there's clearly demand from people wishing to use them) while the only blackberries I see wasted on the floor seem to be from canes too high to reach; while I've seen a lot of people out picking.

Despite being on the edge of a city it seems that some decent connection to nature still exists :smile:

Oddly, you don't see too many folks out picking blackberries here outside of places easily accessible by car - and I live right out in the countryside. I'm lucky though, as there's a stand of canes just across the road from me. North-facing, so not particularly sweet, but the fruit are very big, so suspect an escaped garden cultivar rather than the pure wild brambles. That said, there's loads of good places to pick out here, so I'm spoiled for choice.

The village where I live also has a community orchard, which is a lovely resource. It's not without its problems though, as there is a lot of wastage of fruit, but then there's also the issue of people coming from outside the parish with ladders and crates and stripping the trees. I do avail myself of the fruit, but largely concentrate on the fruit that most won't pick so that it *doesn't* get wasted.

Mind you, I make jams, jellies, chutneys etc (I'm a champion preserve maker!), as well as turning stuff into puddings, pies and crumbles. Oh, and I'm rather partial to apple fritters! :hungry:

Foraging is one of my favourite things to do at this time of year.

I will freeze blackberries so that I can make jam once my stored cooking apples (I also have a big bramley tree in my garden) start looking a bit tired.
 
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