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MichaelM said:
Two maths grads, a statistician and a mathematician, let's see if I can learn something here today!


Let's say I want to find the volume of a rectangular block (say 2x3x5, though a mathematician might say a x b x c), ok so we multiply base x height x length to get the volume. This can be viewed as taking the area of one surface (say 2 x 3), then summing each infinitesimally thin slice of this area along the length (integrating) to obtain the volume. This is the basic idea behind volume integration.

Lets now say I want to find the surface area of a sphere of radius R (4pi.r^2) by integration. Using spherical polar coordinates, I make a small change in two directions (e theta, e phi) to give an infinitesimally small section of the surface area (a very small square?) then by summing these sections in both directions I obtain the surface area for the sphere.

To find the volume for a sphere (4.pi.r^3), I first find the surface area as above, then sum along the e r direction from the origin to the radius.


That's what I want to do, but how do I go about it mathematically? (it's one of the things I've not understood despite having "done it " at least twice!).

I'm not altogether clear as to what you don't yet understand. Mathematically what you are doing is starting with a function of something and changing it into a function of something else, by integration. As you are changing coordinates you end up with Jacobian/volume element/scale factors/ metric fiddling/blah blah blah is needed to go from the 2-sphere/sphere to what is enclosed inside it. The motivation behind doing it that method (if you have been told to) is to emphasise this, break it up and avoid the triple integral outright.

If you haven't yet got the correct answers of 4 Pi r^2 and 4/3 Pi r ^3 then you've probably forgot the element.

If you really mean you don't understand tensors and wtf are they for, your lecturers are not expecting you to do so at this level, merely be introduced to them.
 
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