When a driver refuses a Driver Awareness Course

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classic33

Leg End Member
He's a "hero to cyclists" it appears. Bottom of first column
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I don't know how Youtube works but is it possible that he's earning quite decent cash from the hits on his videos?

http://socialblade.com/youtube/user/sonofthewindsinc

Depending on trends etc, he can be earning a few k per year from it.

Some of the popular people on YouTube are earning hundreds of thousands.
 

benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
This is exactly the sort of "it's obvious" comment I'm trying to challenge. Sometimes the obvious things really are dangerous (and this might be one of them, but I'm not convinced yet).

Push off to pistonheads if you think mobile phone use isn't a dangerous problem.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-33347363
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mobile-phone-related-car-crashes-6717471
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ages-woman-d-met-online-jailed-21-months.html
http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Lor...ist-A38-near/story-27991629-detail/story.html
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
Push off to pistonheads if you think mobile phone use isn't a dangerous problem.
I didn't say that's what I think. I said I'm not convinced that mobile phone use is the massive scourge that it's made out to be. It's a matter of prioritisation - should we spend time focussing on mobile phone use that would be better spent elsewhere?
 
[QUOTE 4056486, member: 45"]I don't think he's in it for the money. He's just an eccentric, and we'd be a boring world without them. He does some good, he does some bad. He's entertaining.[/QUOTE]

I agree. The guy is "crazy as in OCD" with 8 cameras and there are certainly better ways of making money with less much effort. He does however bring a lot of education and value to the streets of London though his approach needs correction. I do remember seeing videos of him admonishing fellow cyclists for their conduct.
 
[QUOTE 4056486, member: 45"]I don't think he's in it for the money.[/QUOTE]

If he wasn't in it for money, he would have advertisements turned off on his videos.

Although, I will say he's not the most irritating person on YouTube.
 
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glenn forger

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He's got cameras sticking out all over the place and a driver either didn't notice them or didn't care and tried to kill him, then pleaded not guilty. If it was a rider without cameras it would not have gone anywhere near court, and it wouldn't have done in this case had the driver accepted the course. So a meat head driver has now paid a fairly hefty financial penalty and thousands of drivers have realised that using cars as weapons is not a good idea.
 
[QUOTE 4056599, member: 45"]He was doing it long before the ads started. If I was in his position I wouldn't turn the ads off, would you?[/QUOTE]

I don't get quite so many views as him. But yes, the adverts on my YouTube channel are turned off. I don't want money from them, and I hate watching adverts.
 
He's got cameras sticking out all over the place and a driver either didn't notice them or didn't care and tried to kill him, then pleaded not guilty. If it was a rider without cameras it would not have gone anywhere near court, and it wouldn't have done in this case had the driver accepted the course. So a meat head driver has now paid a fairly hefty financial penalty and thousands of drivers have realised that using cars as weapons is not a good idea.

Having his ability to drive a cab removed would have been even better.
 

benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
I didn't say that's what I think. I said I'm not convinced that mobile phone use is the massive scourge that it's made out to be. It's a matter of prioritisation - should we spend time focussing on mobile phone use that would be better spent elsewhere?

Well seeing as it's been proven that mobile phone use impairs your judgement at least as much as being over the drink drive limit, I think it's you who needs to convince us that it's not worth the police expending resources on it.
 

LCpl Boiled Egg

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I agree. The guy is "crazy as in OCD" with 8 cameras and there are certainly better ways of making money with less much effort. He does however bring a lot of education and value to the streets of London though his approach needs correction. I do remember seeing videos of him admonishing fellow cyclists for their conduct.

I'd watch his videos to see how not to cycle in urban traffic - and the only value he brings is comedic.
 
I'd watch his videos to see how not to cycle in urban traffic - and the only value he brings is comedic.

The guy had a crash where he sustained couple of broken ribs and hurt his back. The motorist however was placed on an Awareness course. He then took it upon himself to get things fixed. He averages 200 police warnings plus a couple of prosecutions every year since then. I am sure the Police must have reasonable course to act on these complaints. If there was no merit they would have applied to have him treated as a vextatious character and obtained an order to no longer pursue his complaints.

Clearly some of the 200 each year would have corrected their driving behaviour towards other cyclists and probably saved some of us from life threatening situations. Surely it does amount to some good.

The education in this regard are for those who flout the law. And yes he is "crazy" and not likely to get an MBE.
 
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