Where are all the dead people ?

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Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
Sorry for spelling mistakes as writing this on phone.

You managed better than the OP, as far as I can see.

It was knowing what you're going through that made me cross about the flippancy of it all.
 

Blue Steel

New Member
Location
Norfolk
I witnessed my brother in law die of a heart attack, at the age of 42, while I did CPR on him for 45 minutes. Obviously an awful shock at the time. We were at school together, and you just don't expect someone to die that young.

I also spent a short time as an Emergency Medical Technician on an ambulance in Canada shortly before I returned to the UK, which obviously brought me into contact with the kind of experiences many people don't get to witness.

Not an awful lot of fun, not something to be made light of, devastating to those that it touches, but something I am willing to talk about if somebody wishes.

Not that I am claiming to be an expert on such matters. Far from it.
 

Gromit

Über Member
Location
York
You managed better than the OP, as far as I can see.

It was knowing what you're going through that made me cross about the flippancy of it all.

Thank you Arch, the morphine is making her, sleepy and when she does wake up she is having hallucinations. Some of them are quite funny.

Anyway we are hanging in there. One thing I have decided is that there is no way I want to have a slow painfull death and hope that by the time it comes to my time hope that it will be made legal to opt to take my own life. It's not fair to let people suffer like my mum is doing right now.
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
Thank you Arch, the morphine is making her, sleepy and when she does wake up she is having hallucinations. Some of them are quite funny.

Anyway we are hanging in there. One thing I have decided is that there is no way I want to have a slow painfull death and hope that by the time it comes to my time hope that it will be made legal to opt to take my own life. It's not fair to let people suffer like my mum is doing right now.
I feel for you, especially having watched my mum go through a slow, unpleasant death at the end of 2010.

I understand exactly how you feel - ! felt angry about the whole process and am determined not to go through the same thing myself if at all possible. It won't add anything to my experience of life to spend 3 months in a hospital just waiting to die, and in some serious discomfort, only to be finally drugged into unconsciousness and left to starve and dehydrate to death because the law says it is wrong to 'hurry things along'. Absolutely hypocritical, cowardly crap! What is withdrawing medication, food and drink if it isn't hurrying things along! It's just doing it in a way that won't arouse indignation in certain groups of people.

I hope your mum's suffering doesn't go on too much longer Gromit!
 

Gromit

Über Member
Location
York
I feel for you, especially having watched my mum go through a slow, unpleasant death at the end of 2010.

I understand exactly how you feel - ! felt angry about the whole process and am determined not to go through the same thing myself if at all possible. It won't add anything to my experience of life to spend 3 months in a hospital just waiting to die, and in some serious discomfort, only to be finally drugged into unconsciousness and left to starve and dehydrate to death because the law says it is wrong to 'hurry things along'. Absolutely hypocritical, cowardly crap! What is withdrawing medication, food and drink if it isn't hurrying things along! It's just doing it in a way that won't arouse indignation in certain groups of people.

I hope your mum's suffering doesn't go on too much longer Gromit!

Thank you.

One thing we are doing is allowing my mum to die at home. The district nurses are lovely and really helpful. Hospitals restrict visiting hours and people die in artificial environments often during visiting hours. There is no dignity dying in a a ward with curtains pulled around you.
 

Arch

Married to Night Train
Location
Salford, UK
Thank you Arch, the morphine is making her, sleepy and when she does wake up she is having hallucinations. Some of them are quite funny.

Anyway we are hanging in there. One thing I have decided is that there is no way I want to have a slow painfull death and hope that by the time it comes to my time hope that it will be made legal to opt to take my own life. It's not fair to let people suffer like my mum is doing right now.

Me too. We give animals a better deal than humans in that respect.

I quite understand that there are worries about people having that power for the wrong reasons - hurrying an inheritance along, or simply being selfish and not wanting to have to look after an elderly or sick relative. And that vulnerable people could be coerced into saying they wanted to die when they didn't. But we can apparently assess people's mental ability to want to change their gender and other stuff, so why can't we simply implement suitably stringent checks?
 

rollinstok

Well-Known Member
Location
morecambe
A loss should be grieved with loved ones to take a bit of the load.
Its cheap to share online with people you've never even met, doesnt Facebook hold the monopoly for morons ?
 

Mad Doug Biker

Banned from every bar in the Galaxy
Location
Craggy Island
There's nothing moronic about it at all if it is done correctly or is to highlight some sort of issue.

If someone wants to do it, who are we to say no?

Do you remember a few years back a guy who was terminally ill and wanted to be filmed as he died??

You remember the fuss??

Tell me, who's choice was it?

Personally I found the people (who I'd like to point out had absolutely nothing to do with it) making a big song and dance, and telling us what we could and could not see a damn sight more moronic than a man's final wishes!

It was his choice, his life, his death, nobody elses. Why could the morons not understand that?
 

Pat "5mph"

A kilogrammicaly challenged woman
Moderator
Location
Glasgow
Guys and girls, the op asks - no doubt under the influence of something or other ;) "where are all the dead people?" The answer is obvious, they are in our hearts, where they will live forever.
If he meant "where are all the dying people, why are they not posting?" we will have to wait and see if anybody takes him up.
Personally, I feel that some things are better left private, but if the person that's terminal wants to write on the net about it, why not?
Don't think I would read any of it, unless I did have the same illness, or maybe not even then.
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
It would be good if Britain could set a precedent on the question of assisted suicide; we've been discussing it for long enough and it's time someone took the lead. We are probably the most socially organised and publicly correct nation in the world and I can't believe that with all the checks and balances that have evolved in British public life since Magna Carta, we are not capable of creating a well-regulated system that allows terminally sick people to take this option while ensuring it is not abused. Just about every other aspect of personal life can be regulated by the courts so why can't the courts deal with voluntary suicide?

What we do not want to happen is for the world to follow the Swiss model where the law simply leaves a vacuum, which commercial interests fill by exploiting people's misery through the rather sordid and furtive activities of organisations like the inappropriately-named Dignitas and others. We could be doing it so much better than the Swiss and in a genuinely dignified way.
 
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