Where is the NHS when you need it?

[shouldbeinbed]

Private hospitals don't usually treat cancer, not enough profit in it.........

Shaun

My dad had BUPA cover through work, once he got his proper diagnosis of Cancer his consultant pushed him back to the NHS trlling him as an acute patient and significant diagnosis the wheels would move fsr faster than usual and he would be seeing the same consultants. Still died an avoidably early death tho, just too many people needing too few resources and a basis of 1st round of treatment cures you even if it doesn't. 5/of the 6 men on his ward died within 6 months of each other.

Edit: I still believe in the NHS though, the alternative is unthinkable.

 

[screenman]

In Lincoln they have a huge problem with obesity among the staff, if it the same in Wales they may be too busy eating,

 

[gavroche]

Edit: I still believe in the NHS though, the alternative is unthinkable.

I agree with you. I believe this government wants to destroy the NHS, despite what they say, to force people to adopt the American system of private insurance, which most people cannot afford.

 

[vickster]

May I add that my grandson is 22 years old by the way and has already waited 5 days for the operation.

5 days, I don't think that's at all bad for a non emergency! You'd likely wait longer even if doing it privately depending on when the specialist surgeon was next operating and how full the list was

How did he break his hand?

 

[Lonestar]

Isn't it worse in other countries where they have no NHS?

 

[vickster]

Try being in the U.S...massive excesses even if you are insured!

 

[gavroche]

5 days, I don't think that's at all bad for a non emergency! You'd likely wait longer even if doing it privately depending on when the specialist surgeon was next operating and how full the list was

How did he break his hand?

Stupidly, by jumping over a fence in his garden and falling on his hand.

 

[midlife]

The NHS is great (in England at least) but it needs fundamental reform and hard conversations about what will and won't be provided. .

I guess you have come across some of the studies that look at what the public don't want funded when asked....kidney dialysis etc. !!

Shaun

 

[Tin Pot]

I'm afraid I do'nt agree with your ire.

It's not a big deal, and you get treatment for free. So he has to wait a bit. A minor inconvenience.

 

[screenman]

It's a Lincolnshite thing...

You could well be correct.

 

[vickster]

Stupidly, by jumping over a fence in his garden and falling on his hand.

Lucky there's the NHS there to fix it for free, even if he has to wait a few days

 

[ufkacbln]

was one private or both nhs............

One of the most annoying conversations about appointments

Patient: "My wait is too long"
Us: "You have the first available appointment"
Patient: "But.. I am being referred as a Private Patient, I am entitled to be seen sooner"
Us "I understand that, but we book according to clinical priority"
Patient: "I have paid for this, I want my appointment brought forward"
Us: " I am sorry, but there is no earlier appointment, you have the earliest appointment given your clinical condition"
Patient: " I have paid for this appointment.. Cancel one of the NHS ones"
Us: "I am sorry, they all have greater clinical priority, so we can't prioritise you over them"
Patient: "I want my appointment in the next couple of days, or I will make a formal complaint to my insurers"
Us: " Please do, we book according to clinical priority"

Now perform this charade a dozen times a week

 

[screenman]

I'm afraid I do'nt agree with your ire.

It's not a big deal, and you get treatment for free. So he has to wait a bit. A minor inconvenience.

Not sure about the free bit, I must add that NHS hospitals in general have been OK for my family. Some staff though could it seems to me try harder.

 

[ufkacbln]

My dad had BUPA cover through work, once he got his proper diagnosis of Cancer his consultant pushed him back to the NHS trlling him as an acute patient and significant diagnosis the wheels would move fsr faster than usual and he would be seeing the same consultants. Still died an avoidably early death tho, just too many people needing too few resources and a basis of 1st round of treatment cures you even if it doesn't. 5/of the 6 men on his ward died within 6 months of each other.

Edit: I still believe in the NHS though, the alternative is unthinkable.

Another big issue

The patents who are seen privately, then on the NHS for the tests and then seen privately for the results

Better known as "Fraud"

You are either Private or NHS

 

[midlife]

Lucky there's the NHS there to fix it for free, even if he has to wait a few days

I agree with the sentiment .....But it's not really "free" as it's paid for by the taxpayer, which is the problem for the NHS as the taxpayer isn't paying enough for the service the taxpayer wants.

Shaun