Which EV would you get?

[Gunk]

My daughter has one of those, on a company lease.

She also test drove the ID.3 but didn't like it nearly as much. She said it had less interior space, and felt much more "tinny". She also tried the Enyaq (which is what I have just bought) but said that was to big for her - that is on the same platform as the ID.4 or Cupra Taviscan.

The Born is a nice car, we visited a few weeks ago, and she took us for a drive in it.

They are good we’ve done 30,000 miles in less than two years, real world range is about 275 miles so it’s very useable as a main car.

Strange that she thought it was more roomy than an I.D3 when they are basically the same car.

 

[Alex321]

They are good we’ve done 30,000 miles in less than two years, real world range is about 275 miles so it’s very useable as a main car.

Strange that she thought it was more roomy than an I.D3 when they are basically the same car.

Based on the same platform, but different body shell, seats, centre console, etc.

 

[Bonefish Blues]

... and built on the same line, with c60-70% component commonality AI tells me.

 

[figbat]

VW Group AG, or VW AG.

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VAG, Volkswagen-Audi Group, were the old UK importer, completely separate from VW the manufacturer. They were owned by Lohnro, and ceased trading 1993 when Volkswagen formed VW UK and finally brought the import set up fully in-house.

In the UK the VAG name stuck and is generically, if incorrectly, used to refer to the manufacturer.

But “VAG” is used as a moniker for VW across the industry and outside of the UK (where the UK importer name would have been irrelevant and likely unknown). In my experience “VAG” is used as a generic term to describe something from any of the collection of brands under Volkswagen Aktiengesellschaft.

 

[Drago]

It us used extremely widely, but is nevertheless used incorrectly.

 

[biggs682]

I"m thinking of changing my car for something a bit more sensible (and smaller). Skoda Elroq might fit the bill, so on my way home from Bristol I dropped in to a main Skoda dealership. It's Friday lunchtime.

Picture the scene: big glass front, automatic opening door, half a dozen cars on display, one employee half way down the left hand wall at a desk, two further bods right at the back at desks, one possibly on the telephone. All three looked like they were doing something but I know not what. No other customers or potential customers in there. Marie Celeste.

Doors open, I walk in. I look around. I spot an Elroq near the entrance, just what I'm looking for. I walk over to it, open rear door look at legroom, open drivers door, get in front seat, adjust for my driving position, check out the controls. Get out. Check rear legroom again. Plenty. Close doors. Open boot, look to see what size. Decent. Close boot. Walk around car. Look around the showroom. Walk over to a Karoq, repeat most of the above. Walk back to the Elroq. Stand by it, look around. Walk to the auto opening doors, stop and look around, doors open and I walk out. The three sales fellows still trying to look busy.

I'd arrived in a 21 year old Peugeot Partner (Belingo). Would I have got a different response if I'd arrived in my Ioniq 5 AWD starship?

The sales manager needs sacking.

Been there done it seen others do it and seen sales staff sacked for ignoring them but never seen a sales manager sacked for it seen them sacked for other things though.

The motor trade was a fickle industry

 

[geocycle]

Having a good relationship with a dealership was one of our criteria and partly why we ended up with a Renault. We had previously enjoyed a 10 year relationship with Ford but their EVs were not what we wanted. Having been ignored at VW and Skoda the guy at Renault couldn’t have been more helpful. This was particularly important as moving to an EV after a lifetime of manual shift driving was always going to be a challenge, especially for Mrs G. It is also important to us to have their support and be easily reachable. With many dealerships closing it’s become harder to use local suppliers. In complete contrast the son who works in ev charging just buys his vehicles online!

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

I"m thinking of changing my car for something a bit more sensible (and smaller). Skoda Elroq might fit the bill, so on my way home from Bristol I dropped in to a main Skoda dealership. It's Friday lunchtime.

Picture the scene: big glass front, automatic opening door, half a dozen cars on display, one employee half way down the left hand wall at a desk, two further bods right at the back at desks, one possibly on the telephone. All three looked like they were doing something but I know not what. No other customers or potential customers in there. Marie Celeste.

Doors open, I walk in. I look around. I spot an Elroq near the entrance, just what I'm looking for. I walk over to it, open rear door look at legroom, open drivers door, get in front seat, adjust for my driving position, check out the controls. Get out. Check rear legroom again. Plenty. Close doors. Open boot, look to see what size. Decent. Close boot. Walk around car. Look around the showroom. Walk over to a Karoq, repeat most of the above. Walk back to the Elroq. Stand by it, look around. Walk to the auto opening doors, stop and look around, doors open and I walk out. The three sales fellows still trying to look busy.

I'd arrived in a 21 year old Peugeot Partner (Belingo). Would I have got a different response if I'd arrived in my Ioniq 5 AWD starship?

The sales manager needs sacking.

Daughter & myself had a similar experience at a VW commercials dealer, back in spring 2021, when I was looking to replace my Octavia estate, as 'senior management' had considered a camper-van (later to turn into another caravan instead - so a new towcar required)

We ended up at Sheffield, looking at T5's
The salesmen stayed inside, just glancing at us, as we walked down the vehicles there
We looked at them, they looked away

We got in car & drove away
We were received correctly at the MB dealer, for their 'combi-vans' (if that's the right name?)
However, as quite a few of you know, I bought a Kodiaq instead