BrumJim
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Yes, but not the usage I will give it, which will be mostly motorway driving for up to 150 miles.
Which EV would you get?
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Yes, but not the usage I will give it, which will be mostly motorway driving for up to 150 miles.
Alex321
Guru
- Location
- South Wales
EVs are ideally suited to urban driving, rather than open road driving, due to regenerative braking, and not using as much power at 20mph as at 50mph.
Even delivery driving (which isn't quite stopping every 100m) is going to be better in terms of economy with an EV than ICE.
Alex321
Guru
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- South Wales
Must admit, I'm quite pleased with the range on my Enyaq.
Gave it a good test yesterday by driving to Aberystwyth and back to visit Sister in Law in hospital.
Charged to 90% before the journey, the car showed a range of 265 miles at that point. The round trip was 223 miles and it still thought we had 39 miles left when we got home, so not at all far out with that 265. And that would mean around 290 from a 100% charge while EV-database reckons it should be about 280.
I had been a little nervous about whether we really could manage the 350 mile trip to Scotland with just our normal 2 stops for coffee and lunch, but now I'm sure we can do it easily. I know that on a fast charge it does 20-80% in about 15 minutes.
Gave it a good test yesterday by driving to Aberystwyth and back to visit Sister in Law in hospital.
Charged to 90% before the journey, the car showed a range of 265 miles at that point. The round trip was 223 miles and it still thought we had 39 miles left when we got home, so not at all far out with that 265. And that would mean around 290 from a 100% charge while EV-database reckons it should be about 280.
I had been a little nervous about whether we really could manage the 350 mile trip to Scotland with just our normal 2 stops for coffee and lunch, but now I'm sure we can do it easily. I know that on a fast charge it does 20-80% in about 15 minutes.
Jameshow
Guru
But stop start must use more energy than constant driving it's the laws if physics what ever the fuel type us....
Drago
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Ignore the range in the display- they aren't called Guess-O-Meters for nothing. They take into account a gazillion transient variables and are onky an approximation for that moment in time projected forward. Of course you'll never drive identically on identical terrain in identical temperatures in identical traffic density etc.
Theyre a best guess with a chunk cropped off the top so manufacturers dont get sued with cars conking out prematurely. We've only pushed the boundaries a few times in 7 years of EVing and each time we surpassed that which the GoM had been telling us it would do.
Theyre a best guess with a chunk cropped off the top so manufacturers dont get sued with cars conking out prematurely. We've only pushed the boundaries a few times in 7 years of EVing and each time we surpassed that which the GoM had been telling us it would do.
Alex321
Guru
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- South Wales
Regular.Cyclist
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- South West Scotland 🏴
The ICE cars are the same. The one my wife has, like most others, guesstimates remaining range from fuel in the tank. She can start out a journey with X showing, drive Y and end up with X+ at the end. In one case she drove a little over 80 miles and the car showed the original range plus + 25 miles at the end.
Jameshow
Guru
I'm trying to hit 1000 miles with three tanks of fuel in my mini! It's close tbh!
Richard A Thackeray
Legendary Member
I concur, as my theoretical range on brimming the tank is '640 miles'
However, it can significantly raise in steady state use
EDIT @ 08:54
My wife, on the other hand, wears lead shoes (even now, in her Toyota hybrid)
When I had the previous Octavia TDi, I'd brimmed it, she went out in in, & covered about 10 miles
The 'hypothetical range' dropped from (say..) '540' to '490'
I took it out again, when she returned to take our daughter to (I think i was York?), on arrival, I'd got the hypothetical up to '580'
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About the same range as my Born, we have owned it two years now as our main car and with a realistic range of over 250 miles, range anxiety isn’t an issue. The only issue with EV’s as a lifelong car enthusiast is that they are unbelievably boring!
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- Somewhere wet & hilly in NW England.
That’s worth expanding on, if you don't mind and have time.
Drago
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The only difference is they make less noise and go a lot quicker.
Mrs D's EX40 Twin Performance accelerates as quickly as a Lamborhini Diablo from a quarter century ago, but seats 5, can carry 2 dogs, is utterly reliable, and doesn't need an oil change every 3000 miles.
The only difference is that it is now everyday and mundane instead of rare and dramatic. Thats not boring - thats astonishing.
Mrs D's EX40 Twin Performance accelerates as quickly as a Lamborhini Diablo from a quarter century ago, but seats 5, can carry 2 dogs, is utterly reliable, and doesn't need an oil change every 3000 miles.
The only difference is that it is now everyday and mundane instead of rare and dramatic. Thats not boring - thats astonishing.
ivegotabike
Active Member
There was a reasonable discussion of aspects of this on reddit some time back
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/1432i4z/eli5_why_does_fuel_economy_get_better_on_the/
For me personally the heyday of cars was between 1985 and 2005. During that period Ì owned everything from a 205 GTi, Golf GTi 16V, various 6 cylinder BMW’s a couple of air cooled 911’s, plus a load of other stuff.
I know we have electric cars with astonishing power outputs, my friend has a Taycan Turbo S which is blisteringly fast, but they are all lacking something, they’re sort of one trick ponies, just very fast in a straight line with a ton of torque, when are you actually going to use all that power in the real world? They just don’t have the soul and excitement of a reasonably powerful, lightweight ICE car. You don’t need 600 bhp and two tons of weight. The sweet spot in my opinion was around 1200kgs and 200 bhp, that really was enough, my 2005 MkV Golf GTi was probably about perfect, it was so forgiving it made you feel like a driving God, I always had a huge grin ear to ear driving that car.
My decision to run an electric car two years ago was purely financial (Ì decided to retire), and it’s worked out very well, the Born is very capable with many attributes, it’s just strange owning a car that I have zero emotional attachment to. However I probably will have another But just don’t ask me to love it!
