Which is better? A philisophical question, if you will.

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yello

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Any chance we can get back to the philosophical (or phillosophical even!) question. WAY more interesting than urban v rural density discussions and what constitutes 'remote'? :angry:
 

bonj2

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yello said:
Any chance we can get back to the philosophical (or phillosophical even!) question. WAY more interesting than urban v rural density discussions and what constitutes 'remote'? :angry:

I think the answer is some people prefer one, some prefer the other.
And it depends on lots of other variables.
Sorry if that's too easy an answer...
 

yello

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bonj said:
Sorry if that's too easy an answer...

I'm not looking for an answer. Discussion is more interesting than any answer.

I guess this actually highlights a poignant difference if one considers the original question. That is <Answer, move on; answer, move on> v <take the time to ponder, enjoy the journey not just the destination>..
 

bonj2

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yello said:
I'm not looking for an answer. Discussion is more interesting than any answer.

I guess this actually highlights a poignant difference if one considers the original question. That is <Answer, move on; answer, move on> v <take the time to ponder, enjoy the journey not just the destination>..

<pedantic>
Well in that case then the original question should possibly have been "what are the relative advantages and disadvantages of ..." rather than "which is better..."
</pedantic>
 

bonj2

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I suppose I personally see not doing anything as a waste, because if you are doing something you could be getting better at.
I suppose one of the reasons I enjoy what i do is because the more i do it the better i get at it.
If you are just stiting on your arse 'pondering' or 'contemplating', you aren't bettering yourself. If you do that all the time, your brain turns to mush.
 

yello

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The OP's questions are not necessarily mine. Neither are his answers I suspect.

Discussion explores the variables and can be of interest to all regardless of their own personal questions.
 

Arch

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bonj said:
Fens? like norfolk?;) lincolnshire? east yorkshire? don't think that's particularly hilly is it....

That was my point. The fens are remote, but not at all hilly....

I suppose one of the reasons I enjoy what i do is because the more i do it the better i get at it.
If you are just stiting on your arse 'pondering' or 'contemplating', you aren't bettering yourself. If you do that all the time, your brain turns to mush.

So, the more time you spend thinking, the better you get at that too. Obviously, unless you apply the thinking, it's wasted, but the more you think, the more you're able to see both sides of an argument, or spot flaws in logic, and so on.
 

yello

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bonj said:
If you are just stiting on your arse 'pondering' or 'contemplating', you aren't bettering yourself. If you do that all the time, your brain turns to mush.

Really? It's a point of view I guess. One I'd disagree with as it happens but there you go. I think there are many many others that would too. Researchers, academics... I'm sure all people that want to achieve a goal are inclined to have a good think about it, just to plot a direction etc. That's pondering, no?

How do you define 'bettering yourself'?
 

bonj2

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Arch said:
That was my point. The fens are remote, but not at all hilly....



So, the more time you spend thinking, the better you get at that too. Obviously, unless you apply the thinking, it's wasted, but the more you think, the more you're able to see both sides of an argument, or spot flaws in logic, and so on.

I 'm not sure I understand how you can "get better at thinking" simply by doing more of it.
Thinking is basically your brain processing information, and how well you think something through depends on what experience you have, and what other information you know, to relate it to. Also it would depend on what you define as "how well" you think something through.
 

bonj2

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yello said:
Really? It's a point of view I guess. One I'd disagree with as it happens but there you go. I think there are many many others that would too. Researchers, academics... I'm sure all people that want to achieve a goal are inclined to have a good think about it, just to plot a direction etc. That's pondering, no?

How do you define 'bettering yourself'?

Becoming better at something: for example I'm better at squash than i was a week ago, becasue i've played 4 times this week. Almost noticeably so.
Another example I'm noticeably better at pretty much all types of cycling than i was a year ago, again noticeably so.
 

ChrisKH

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bonj said:
I 'm not sure I understand how you can "get better at thinking" simply by doing more of it.
Thinking is basically your brain processing information, and how well you think something through depends on what experience you have, and what other information you know, to relate it to. Also it would depend on what you define as "how well" you think something through.

Tell that to my hippy uncle who had to give up trascendental meditation because the out of body experiences were beginning to frighten him. The mind is a powerful organ. For some.
 

bonj2

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ChrisKH said:
Tell that to my hippy uncle who had to give up trascendental meditation because the out of body experiences were beginning to frighten him. The mind is a powerful organ. For some.

i'd say cut down on the acid 'n shrooms. ;)
 

Arch

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bonj said:
I 'm not sure I understand how you can "get better at thinking" simply by doing more of it.
Thinking is basically your brain processing information, and how well you think something through depends on what experience you have, and what other information you know, to relate it to. Also it would depend on what you define as "how well" you think something through.

But the more time you spend thinking, the more experience and information you can bring into it, and the better you get at making the right connections and filtering out the irrelevant. It's like you can get better at cryptic crosswords when you start to learn the tricks the setters use.

I think it's generally accepted now that thinking is a 'use it or lose it' thing... Hence using your brain more actively can ward off the onset of dementia and so on.
 
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