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Who needs oil when we have salt water?

Discussion in 'CycleChat Cafe' started by Bigtallfatbloke, 14 Sep 2007.

  1. Bigtallfatbloke

    Bigtallfatbloke New Member

  2. marinyork

    marinyork Resting in suspended Animation

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    Talking of interesting new things Di-positionium was all over the news this week. Similarly long shot but a possible useful tool for fusion.
     
  3. Fnaar

    Fnaar Smutmaster General

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    That little Welsh fella?
    :smile:
     
  4. Bigtallfatbloke

    Bigtallfatbloke New Member



    Demonstration
     
  5. Arch

    Arch Married to Night Train

    Location:
    York, UK
    Does the generation of the radio wwaves require energy? How much? I mean is this actually able to generate more energy though the Hydrogen than is required to release it?

    Still, great news. Now the US can invade anywhere with sea round it, not just places rich in oil..:smile:
     
  6. Globalti

    Globalti Legendary Member

    I'm more interested in the cancer cure the same bloke seems to have developed, as shown on Youtube.
     
  7. Elmer Fudd

    Elmer Fudd Miserable Old Bar Steward

    Oh dear, methinks this means we are up a certain creek and we aint got a paddle ! :ohmy:;)
     
  8. hubgearfreak

    hubgearfreak Über Member

    you're right to doubt it arch....
    the engine at the end of the video is a sterling engine ( http://www.stirlingengine.com/ ) these will run sat on you hand, or if placed ontop of a cold can of pop. they take tiny heat differentials to run, so it isn't that impressive as an energy source.
    however, to release H from H2O takes enormous amounts of energy.

    there are many who would like to continue their wasteful use of energy and hope that technology will solve the inevitable crisis that's on its way....and sadly, this sort of bullshit just encourages them
     
  9. twentysix by twentyfive

    twentysix by twentyfive Clinging on tightly

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    Over the Hill
    Yep it's a perpetual motion machine of the first kind I think, the "machine" that relies on energy not being conserved. So fantasize if you want too but it's b*ll*x.
     
  10. jonesy

    jonesy Legendary Member

    Yup, it's another version of the classic free hydrogen perpetual motion fraud. Note one of the defining characteristics: the red-herring question about how the hydrogen might be used to power things. This is irrelevant, everyone knows that if you could extract useful quantities of hydrogen then there are all sorts of ways of using it as a fuel. The important question is the one that is always left out of announcements of these sort of 'discoveries', but is a very simple one: have you measured and compared the RF energy needed to break down the water with the energy you get back from the hydrogen?
     
  11. Cycling Naturalist

    Cycling Naturalist Legendary Member

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    Er....Arch, doesn't the USA have a pretty big coastline to start off with?
     
  12. twentysix by twentyfive

    twentysix by twentyfive Clinging on tightly

    Location:
    Over the Hill
    Well for you and me it would be but those dollar/power hungry yanks would want to control it all. Can't have Iran et al having its own power supply.......
     
  13. hubgearfreak

    hubgearfreak Über Member

    my guess would be about 1000watts in:1watt out:becool:
     
  14. gkerr4

    gkerr4 New Member

    Location:
    Blackpool
    oh well - Ill take the rangy to tesco to fill up instead of the prom then..

    ho hum.
     
  15. domtyler

    domtyler Über Member

    OH MY GOD. Have you kretins never even heard of dilithium? Have you been reading The Sun for the past twenty years?