Who would like to see a classic bike section?

[pubrunner]

Insensitive? Oh, come on ...

Noodley makes a snide remark, indirectly related to Hover Fly's father; yes, that's insensitive.

 

[peanut]

Insensitive? Oh, come on ...

nothing to flame over on L&P then tonight?


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[peanut]

Well, if you didn't want people's opinions, why did you ask for them?

I wasn't aware that I had asked for yours or anyone else opinion ?

If you read the title it asks you for a vote ..unless that is too difficult

 

[goo_mason]

I wasn't aware that I had asked for yours or anyone else opinion ?

If you read the title it asks you for a vote ..unless that is too difficult

But by voting I'm surely expressing an opinion on whether I'd like to see a classic bike section? So you ARE asking for opinions, really!

 

[Shaun]

Can we please stick to idea that was originally floated - I'm sure most people get what was proposed, so let's not get pulled off into arguments and too deep an analysis of the specifics of it all.

Vote, have your say, and then leave it to see what others think.

If there's enough interest for the idea, then it should become evident in its own right. Equally, if not.

Thanks,
Shaun

 

[Dayvo]

I endorse Pubrunner's comments: a section dedicated to a bygone age would, in my opinion, be of nostalgic interest to a lot of people.

PS. I'm claiming copyright on the forum name: Bikes of a Bygone Era

Go and get your own forum, Admin!

I was first!

Copycat!

 

[longers]

I'd be interested in reading about older bikes and seeing the photo's that CCers have in their collections. Whether that's in a different section or in the appropriate areas on here already I don't mind, but if a new area encouraged this then I'd be keen on it - especially the photo's and stories.

 

[Rhythm Thief]

I wasn't aware that I had asked for yours or anyone else opinion ?

If you read the title it asks you for a vote ..unless that is too difficult

Ok then. I voted No.

 

[Keith Oates]

I've also voted NO, I like the idea of posting and reading about old bikes, etc. but consider it could be accommodated in one of the existing sections, as others have mentioned.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[peanut]

interesting to note that despite over 500 members and guests logged at any one time, this poll has only received a 10% response
I wonder if this is an indication of how selectively members and guests surf this forum or too much effort to tick a box

 

[yello]

I see I've been name checked! As much as I enjoyed the Rory O'Brien thread, and would dearly love to read more of them on this forum, I never for a moment considered there being a sub-forum specially for classic bikes.

In honesty, it wasn't really the subject matter than moved me. It was what was happening. The chanceness of it, the people coming together to share from different corners of the world. People that had once been connected in a time and a place. It was beautiful. Nostalgia and reminiscing, and great great fondness. Yes, it was about bikes and cycling... but it could have been equally been about cake decoration and I would have felt just about the same!

So I voted 'no, not particularly'. Not because I don't want it but because, like many old bikes, it would gather dust and get forgotten. I suspect many on this forum, like myself, simply could not contribute - as much as we might enjoy reading the threads.

If I could vote for more such threads, then that'd get a emphatic 'yes' from me... but that can't happen. Treasures are treasures because of their rarity. Enjoy them for what they are, when they are. Simply having a sub-forum wont create them. We need the members for that, and CC simply doesn't have that kind of membership.

 

[pubrunner]

I think Special Interests should cover it. If it's special enough a subject for the question to be asked then surely it is special enough to be covered by Special Interests.

I think that a section on 'Bygone Bikes' (or similar) could/should be incorporated alongside the Fixed & Singlespeed and the Recumbant & HPV sub-sections within Special Interests.

Let us not forget that in his initial posting, Peanut did state that "I would be very keen to volunteer my time to contribute and moderate or anything else I can do".

He has made a perfectly reasonable proposal for a new (sub) section and even offered to help (in practical terms) as much as possible.

IMO, it seems a shame that his (and others, inc. myself) enthusiasm for a new sub-section has had such a churlish response from certain forum members - some of whom have suggested that we 'try other forums'.

Using that approach, it would be very difficult to 'justify' many of the sections on this forum.

 

[peanut]

'He has made a perfectly reasonable proposal for a new (sub) section and even offered to help (in practical terms) as much as possible.

IMO, it seems a shame that his (and others, inc. myself) enthusiasm for a new sub-section has been had such a churlish response from certain forum members - some of whom have suggested that we 'try other forums'. '

yes it does really doesn't it.

I suppose that this thread has become the sort of thing that I have been trying to discuss on another thread. I'm not sure where this happened or whether perhaps I was in part responsible for it. If every request or proposal is met with derision ,pointing and rasberry blowing the whole thing becomes rather pointless really.

It rather looks as though the general consensus is that an addition to an existing sub forum would be the most appropriate way forward.
Fortunately i haven't yet lost all my enthusiasm but it sure has had a bit of a knock.
Talking of knockers maybe I'll be safe from them in a hidden sub-forum

Mmm that has given me another idea !... (light bulb brightens)

maybe we could have an 'over XX yrs' section like Bike Forums , ahem.. cough where only grownups can post...............just kiddin Shaun

 

[Rhythm Thief]

IMO, it seems a shame that his (and others, inc. myself) enthusiasm for a new sub-section has had such a churlish response from certain forum members ...

If you're referring to Noodley's posts earlier in the thread, I've just read them back and they seem to me to be rational and logical arguments as to why he doesn't want a "Classic Bikes" section of the forum, a stance I quite agree with. What your statement seems to mean to me is "IMO, it seems a shame that there are some people who don't agree with us".

 

[pubrunner]

If you're referring to Noodley's posts earlier in the thread, I've just read them back and they seem to me to be rational and logical arguments as to why he doesn't want a "Classic Bikes" section of the forum, a stance I quite agree with. What your statement seems to mean to me is "IMO, it seems a shame that there are some people who don't agree with us".

A facetious posting such as "A thread in Gallery entitled "Old Photos with bikes incidental to overall effect"? - Hardly rational or logical; rather designed to 'wind up' others I think.

My statement seems to mean, exactly what I intended it to mean . . .

Peanut made a perfectly reasonable proposal for a new (sub) section and even offered to help (in practical terms) as much as possible.

IMO, it seems a shame that his (and others, inc. myself) enthusiasm for a new sub-section has had such a churlish response (comments which you have chosen to ignore) from certain forum members - some of whom have suggested that we 'try other forums'.

Using that approach, it would be very difficult to 'justify' many of the sections on this forum. Health, Fitness & Training - why don't you 'try other forums' that do that ?; Politics & Life - why don't you 'try other forums' that do that ?; Road Rides, Audax, and Sportives why don't you 'try other forums' that do that - Bike Radar/CTC etc, etc ?

It is rather a pointless argument to say that we should not have something merely because it may be found on a different forum; the same could be said of all the sections of Cyclechat.

Some say that the proposed new section wouldn't work - well how do they know this ?

To give an example, how many would have expected/predicted the Politics & Life section to be possibly the most used section within the entire forum ? A section on a Bike forum, which isn't directly relevant, is the most used.

And you believe that the proposed sub-section (which is directly relevant to bikes) wouldn't be used ?