Why I hate the modern world

[Spinney]

That decreased the flow!

Read it again, he gave times per gallon, not gallons per minute...

 

[Tin Pot]

It's not fraud.

No, it's "redistribution of wealth".

 

[Milkfloat]

[QUOTE 4982461, member: 9609"]but the point was the original description is arguably correct so on what grounds could I return it ? "Full Flow" is a meaningless throwaway term that sort of masquerades and fools the unwary into thinking it means "Full Bore" which is the accepted term that means when fully open the gate is the same size as the pipe.[/QUOTE]

That assumes the company you are dealing with know that. I would certainly try.

 

[presta]

Labelling regulations try to stop consumers thinking they are getting something they are not, but it only works if you know the 'code'.
e.g. 'fruit juice' is 100% fruit juice*
a 'fruit drink' is diluted fruit juice - you are paying for water - but unless you know what the 'drink' on the label means, the labelling regulation is useless

Another couple like that: fish (or meat) 'paste' has to be higher fish content that fish 'spread', and a 'dietician' has to be qualified and registered by law, whereas anyone can call themselves a 'nutritionist'.

[QUOTE 4982461, member: 9609"]"Full Flow" is a meaningless throwaway term that sort of masquerades and fools the unwary into thinking it means "Full Bore" which is the accepted term that means when fully open the gate is the same size as the pipe.[/QUOTE] I think full flow just means that the water doesn't have to contort around a tap washer and seat like in a stop tap.

 

[Yellow Saddle]

That decreased the flow!

Read carefully. It is a trick statement.

 

[classic33]

It was when we didn't have the Internet, radio or TV and most of us couldn't read, so we never got to find out about half the nasty crap going on in the world!

Somebody was murdered in Halifax recently, about 12 miles from here. The only reason that I found out about it was that I was on the Halifax Courier website looking for details of the new Lidl Superstore being built in Todmorden!

Closer than that, they got the location wrong.

 

[classic33]

Read it again, he gave times per gallon, not gallons per minute...

You were beat to it!

Read carefully. It is a trick statement.

 

[snorri]

[QUOTE 4982461, member: 9609"]but the point was the original description is arguably correct so on what grounds could I return it ? "Full Flow" is a meaningless throwaway term that sort of masquerades and fools the unwary into thinking it means "Full Bore" which is the accepted term that means when fully open the gate is the same size as the pipe.[/QUOTE]
You realised that "Full flow" was a meaningless term yet went ahead with the purchase, why?
Perhaps you should have employed someone qualified to deal with your plumbing problem instead of trying to do it yourself.

 

[Spinney]

Maybe he didn't realise it until after he'd bought it?
Happens to us all, now and then.

 

[annedonnelly]

Awwww bless, it's so cute when someone thinks con artists obey advertising and cold calling rules

I'm the one who doesn't have all the junk mail pouring through my door....

 

[Colin_P]

I blame humans

Makes a change I thought someone would have blamed it on Brexit by now.

Fraud in socialist societies (whatever they are) is still an example of capitalism in action.

What, like the socialist societies where some animals are more equal than others socialist societies?

It's not fraud.

Theft then?

No, it's "redistribution of wealth".

Thievery.

aka capitalism.

No just theft. At least with capitalism they tell someone they are going to rob them first and they have a choice to stop it. When socialists do it, it is just blunt force theft, no ifs, no buts, "we'll have that off you comrade".

 

[Crackle]

Mod note:

This being in cafe....

The Cafe is our lighter off-topic forum where we don't take things too seriously and where you can come for some relaxed chat in the company of your CC friends

Let's try and keep the political discussion, even the lighthearted stuff, out of it please.

 

[wreck rider]

People trying to take your money is nothing new, my reference to the modern world was more to do with the methods employed. In my example I did not google tax refund or visit 3rd party sites. I presume someone within HMRC is passing on info. The methods these companies use may be just about legal, but the intention is to deceive.
I once started a job with a supposed independent financial advice website, naively I thought I would be part of a team offering helpful advice, but the whole company existed purely as a data gathering service. The job was to obtain as much detail as possible about people responding to the website then it was sold to very specific companies at a premium price. I left in my first week as it may have been legal, but the whole business was built upon deception.
Even if you are careful about sharing your personal information, it is very difficult to avoid being targeted these days. If you have the ability to spot that the deliberately official looking form is actually from a company looking for a share of YOUR cash, then it's just a nuisance. Many people, for a number of reasons, don't spot it and pay unnecessary fees. It is at best immoral, but I think it should be treated as deception and the perpetrators punished as such.
On a lighter note, I lost my temper when I received a call at a very inconvenient time about a vehicle accident I have never had, and I gave the guy in what sounded like an Indian call centre a right mouthful. I was a bit over the top but he really did call at the wrong time. Ten minutes later he called back to point out that he was sure my mother had not brought me up to use language like that!

 

[wreck rider]

The fraud comes from impersonating HMRC. The envelope, the documents, everything is made to appear official.
The information about fees and it actually being a third party service, require a microscope to find and read.
This is aimed to deceive.

 

[MichaelW2]

I prefer theolden days when footpads would simply point a flintlock in your face and say " stand and deliver". Of course we had criminals before Adam and the Ants as well.