Why pick on diesel?

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vickster

Squire
I don't think the purchase of urban 4x4s is typically about need, but preference, want, appearance or aspiration
 

KneesUp

Guru
I don't think the purchase of urban 4x4s is typically about need, but preference, want, appearance or aspiration
Quite. But how to persuade people that they appear to be the termination of a bell I they use one in an urban environment?
 
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gavroche

gavroche

Getting old but not past it
Location
North Wales
Renault have increased the range of their Zoe to over 100 miles now by using a more powerful battery. That could be an option. The Nissan Leaf is also to be considered but they are still a long way from the Tesla. Unfortunately, that one is still far too expensive for most people, including me.
 

screenman

Squire
Oslo city council have been considering a total ban on diesel vehicles. It wouldn't surprise me if they start doing it this winter.

I have a 2006 model diesel Passat. A very good car. It's depreciating a lot quicker now, but there you go.

I wish they had a diesel - Tesla trade-in deal :smile:

It will not go down much more than it has now, I gave £900 for an estate version a few weeks ago.
 

TheDoctor

Noble and true, with a heart of steel
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The TerrorVortex
I'm sure its probably been said a few times in the 9 pages before this but they've found out that diesel particulates are immediately harmful to people's health :-(

Not being funny, but the problem of PM10 (particulates of around 10 um) has been well known for ages! My degree course mentioned it in 1995, and it wasn't exactly ground-breaking news then.
Not that it stopped me buying a diesel, though...
 

tyred

Squire
Location
Ireland
Not being funny, but the problem of PM10 (particulates of around 10 um) has been well known for ages! My degree course mentioned it in 1995, and it wasn't exactly ground-breaking news then.
Not that it stopped me buying a diesel, though...

I read about in CAR magazine sometime back in the early 1990s.
 

mustang1

Legendary Member
Location
London, UK
Current diesel cars are reasonably clean. Petrol ones too. The big problem is the diesel vans and small trucks that appear not to have any anti-pollution requirements.

I've never complained about cycling behind a modern diesel or petrol car but I hate cycling behind vans - I'm not sure why the government doesn't target these super polluting vehicles, especially from city centres where there is a large concentration of them.

Edit: sorry everyone for my atrocious grammar and spelling. Not sure what happened there.
 
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Not being funny, but the problem of PM10 (particulates of around 10 um) has been well known for ages! My degree course mentioned it in 1995, and it wasn't exactly ground-breaking news then.
Not that it stopped me buying a diesel, though...
Yip your right I first saw a program on it when I was back at school (I left school in 92 :ohmy:) it apparently can near fatal for some folk IIRC. Perhaps I should have said the authorities are now taking it serious, that why the are trying now to curb diesels :wacko:

Edit: and it did put me off buying a diesel when I saw the victims!
 

mustang1

Legendary Member
Location
London, UK
If you currently own a diesel powered car(Peugeot 208 1.4 HDI 98g/km) and are considering buying a brand new petrol powered car(Peugeot 1.2 Pure Tech 104g/km) which is more polluting over 3 years/30000miles, the production of the new car + 30000 miles or running running diesel car?

Depends if you're talking about global environment or just the local city in which I live/work.

New car obvsly more polluting to global environment and new car less polluting in my home city where it will be used. Pales in comparison to the real polluters which are those white vans and small trucks.
 

Cuchilo

Prize winning member X2
Location
London
London already has for vans ( about five years ago ) From memory it cost me about 4k as i live about 1/2 a mile inside the zone ( Kempton park )
I did wonder at the time why they just picked on vans but i guess bringing these things in slow reduces the risk of the masses objecting .
 
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