Why the abuse?

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MadoneRider1991 said:
tbh there is no reason to comment on anyones riding styles. everyone rides differently


I don't agree. I think a lot has been learned on here and elsewhere by discussing riding styles. I certainly have learned a lot.
 

boydj

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User76 said:
I reckon people react like they do towards you because you trap them.

Don't you mean 'catches them out'? Or are motorists are only culpable if they are not being filmed?

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If the police used the same tactics you do to trap criminals, then it would all be thrown out of court.

Just being there constitutes entrapment now?
 

J4CKO

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Its the same on any video on there, my uncle put one up of him sliding his Rover V8 around and you get mainly positive comments but there seem to be those that exist simply to make negative comments, you win though, every time as you have made them sit through several minutes of footage of someone cycling. I also think there is a bit of a class thing, certain groups in society don't cycle as it is seen as being seen to be that you cant afford a car and involves effort, i.e. knuckle dragging types so as is normal with these types, they feel the need to have a go and every retard has a pc these days to look at porn and play online bingo.
 

downfader

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I reckon people react like they do towards you because you trap them. I have said it before, if you put on a camera and then post the results on-line then put your tin hat on.

If the police used the same tactics you do to trap criminals, then it would all be thrown out of court.

We, and the viewers on-line, see just your view, from an off-centre angle, at an unusual height, at a time of your choosing, with your head wibbly-wobbling about, the viewer has no idea of your road position prior to, during and after the event, what your signalling was like, indeed if you signalled, whether you made decent observations, if the car was signalling, lights displayed on your bike and the car, the majority of road markings and if one of the parties had waved someone through.

Admittedly, you are better than others at the filming, especially Thomas who needs a new camera and a kick up the arse, but if the person viewing on YouTube rarely if ever rides a bike, all of the above are questions they may take issue with. But mostly, it's because you are viewed as trapping people I reckon.

"The humourous voice of reason" :tongue: I think they might have been laughing at you after that little tirade. :ohmy:
 

arranandy

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I post videos on youtube of what happens when I cycle to and from work. I make comments about it and let people debate my cycling and the incidents. On occasion I have raised my voice (usually to be heard) and on occasion I have sworn (usually out of shock whilst asking why someone did something).

So what is it that I do that deserves comments such as this received today on youtube:

I want to find you and run you over

This is one of many, many comments that I receive like this on a nearly daily basis. Why? What do these people seek to gain? Do they think I will be scared by there, I'm a big man hidden by an anonymous log in, comments? I'm not! Or, are they just troubled souls with no life, and nothing better to do than spend their life telling the rest of the world how wrong it is?

Am I and others like me who post these incidents really such monsters that we deserve death threats? It really makes me wonder what it must be like for people like Madeleine McCann's parents when they had the media turning against them. :tongue:


I certainly don't worry about iit (I get plenty of positive comments and messages), but it really is fascinating!

They are peanuts, just ignore them
 
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:smile: Oh come on Maggot, I trap them! :biggrin: If using a camera is seen as entrapment, then why are the police using them increasingly, why are traffic wardens using them increasingly, and why are lollipop men and woman using them increasingly? Please provide evidence that using a camera would result in a case being thrown out of court, or are you just throwing arguments for arguments sake?
Anyway I think you give these idiots more credit than they are due. I don't think they would understand what entrapment was (I'm not sure you do....:tongue:)

Don't worry folks, I don't worry about these comments, I just wonder what goes through their minds. Hmm. Maybe I should try and recruit a few of them for an functional MRI study, maybe they don't have minds after all.....
 
User76 said:
I reckon people react like they do towards you because you trap them. I have said it before, if you put on a camera and then post the results on-line then put your tin hat on.

If the police used the same tactics you do to trap criminals, then it would all be thrown out of court.

How’s he trapping them – he’s just recording his commute

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We, and the viewers on-line, see just your view, from an off-centre angle, at an unusual height, at a time of your choosing, with your head wibbly-wobbling about, the viewer has no idea of your road position prior to, during and after the event, what your signalling was like, indeed if you signalled, whether you made decent observations, if the car was signalling, lights displayed on your bike and the car, the majority of road markings and if one of the parties had waved someone through.

Are we looking at the same videos? Don’t recognise your description here – anyway I’m off to “trap” some poor unsuspecting motorist by cycling home on the road…:biggrin:
 

soulful dog

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As well as the usual internet abuse, i.e. you are broadcasting yourself online and therefore that puts you out there as a target (which is true of anyone who publishes stuff online be it a blog, website, video or whatever), there's possibly a feeling from some drivers that you're a bit of a self righteous git for wanting to highlight people's wrong doings. People can get so defensive, particularly it seems when they get into their cars, and you are attacking them with your videos. Possibly, there is also the typical Scottish (at least I think it's typically Scottish) attitude that you are seeking a bit of fame with your videos and so are fair game for abuse.

Just throwing some thoughts into the mix (just want to point out I'm not calling you a self righteous git!), personally I reckon the biggest factor is the first thing I mentioned. No matter how good your intentions are, there will always be people wanting to shoot you down just because you are broadcasting/publishing something online.

Incidentally, I've watched a couple of your videos and my only thoughts were thank god I don't commute in rush hour traffic!

Oh and edited to add, I think Maggot's point is a creditable one too....
 
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User76 said:
Imagine shagging some bird after the x-ray dept night out, you would feel shit the next day, remorseful and just want the whole thing forgotten. Then some wag posts it on the internet and your missus sees it, it's the same. What you thought was private mistake has now become public property for everyone to laugh at you and judge you about, without knowing the full context, situation or potential results.


If I did that, I would deserve anything that came as a result. What are the normal consequences of my filming? The vast majority of the time the drivers are not identified, they never even know they have been filmed (when they do, they often don't care).

If you think driving on the road is a private affair, then you are very, very nieve. Eyes (CCTV) are everywhere, maybe FM or Kirstie could fill in the details....
 
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Soulful dog,

I think there is certainly some truth in what you say.

It's funny when people think I want fame. I hate the whole celeb thing. However, at the same time, I'm not scared of people knowing who I am or knowing what I stand for. If a bit of publicity will spread the message, then I'm happy to do it. Of course if no-one cared I probably stop doing it and move on. It's human nature. We all want someone to listen.

Anyway, the sad thing is I'm probably the perfect person for the celeb life. I am really boring, and can't think of any interesting skeletons in the cupboard. With my judo club I used to pop over to Amsterdam for competitions. Afterwards we would cruse the cafes. I was the really boring one who stuck to the beers!

Which bit of what maggot says do you agree with, the entrapment bit?
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